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lilitalienboi16:
Really really stinks ya know guys? Oh don't mind me, just publicly venting about my common failures to reign in the beast and all his lustful adventures. Feel free to join in, sympathize, ignore, criticize, whatever you'd like to do. Just let there be no illusions, I am a great sinner and Jesus is a great Saviour. Those are about the only two things I know in this life with absolute certainty.

The worst is when I think of my beautiful fiance, her supportive, smart, caring, loving nature towards me and how not only do I sin against my God but I betray her in secret with my shameful acts. I know, we've had this discussion ad nauseum and i've been here time and time again. I really don't want to have to wait till i'm 60+ or the next life for these hormones to die down or things to change. Its just not fair... and here I thought I was somethīng special, that the Lord would save me differently than the rest of those men before me whom He called and justified. Yea right Alex, why would you get some special treatment in the process, maybe skip a few steps? Hah!

So here is your brother, the hypocrit! Take a good look at him.... all the wisdom and knowledge wont save me. My free will, even if it did exist, would surely only drive me to sin against God infinitely more. So what is a hormonal filled twenty something year old to do? Beg for mercy and pray for the patience to wait on God until the appointed time... And yet I cant get away from my shame and disgrace. Maybe its such a long process, wrestling with the lust of the flesh--that is sexual immorality (masterbation, there I said it)--so that we NEVER forget it, not even in the coming ages.. so we are forever grateful to be free from it. So that humility becomes a very core part of our being... I certainly feel humbled but I guess I'm not quite there yet.

Ladies, girls, mothers, women, i don't mean to neglect you, leave you out of this discussion, or forget you; Nevertheless, I am but a boy and cannot imagine your struggles, though im sure whatever they are ( if God is real and He certainly is), they can feel as a noose around your neck as my own sins are to me. We are naked before God as He shines His light upon us and we transition towards Him. Ever closer we are dragged towards the Fire that is His being and ever more are we made aware of our own weaknesses and great need for Him in everything we do, think, and say. None can hide from Him, there is no secret He cannot find out. There is no cave or rock that will keep His eyes off us. As we grow to hate the beast, as we wrestle and agonize over this moral futility, God makes us a promise. A wonderful promise that one day we will be like Him. In Jesus is all creation vindicated because He affirms its destiny. Truly the last Adam. That day cannot come soon enough. I am tired of failing.

What I offer each one of you is my deepest love and understanding of your struggles, sufferings, and failures because I ain't got a leg to stand on. I am nothing, the lowest of the low, but I love each one of you so very deeply. Nevermind we've never met, I love you and i'm here for you and I mean it.

Sincerely yours In The Saviour i am not worthy to even be a slave of,
Alex

lauriellen:
Alex, thanks for sharing and being so honest. We all struggle with something. I have come to believe it is our thorn in the flesh to keep us humble. I have too many to count,  but every once in a while, God lets me have a tiny victory in something that I am struggling with, and it is very humbling to know that it is His strength, not mine, and it also gives me joy to see Him produce even a small 'fruit' of the spirit. I have given many many hours of thought trying to understand why our life is this way....I know all that happens is part of God's plan, so I try to just be thankful for the good days, thank God when the bad days are over and keep asking for faith to believe that it's all going to work out. I am grateful to you and all who share and post here.

Rhys 🕊:
I like Ray's reply here concerning this


http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,4098.msg31284.html#msg31284

You are not alone out there with this particular pull of the flesh for sexual gratification. It is common among all men (and women to a somewhat lesser extent).  It is GOOD that we should feel embarrassed over our sins. My past sins are an embarrassment to me when I from time to time think about them. If they were NOT an embarrassment to me, I might still be committing these same stupid and lustful acts.  Embarrassment and guilt are good for us. These feelings first make us realize that these things are lustful, and wrong, and stupid.  But we will not have victory over them unless and until God reveals to us their real purpose and need to get rid of them.

Where did the mechanism by which Eve:  "saw that the tree was GOOD FOR FOOD, and that it was PLEASANT TO THE EYES, and a tree to be desired to MAKE ONE WISE..." come from in the first place?  Did SHE create these desires in her heart and mind and soul?  Get real--SHE HAD NOT A CLUE!  God created humanity in the spiritually weakened state in which we find ourselves, but there is a great and grand reason and purpose for it.

There is a "SPIRITUAL GREATNESS" that is achieved by the conquering of illegal pulls [spiritually 'illegal'] of the flesh and the stupid sensual lust for self-gratification.  These things are not good, in and by themselves, as modern psychologists might try to convince us, but they do serve a good purpose when they embarrass us and make us feel guilty. Embarrassment and guilt are the precursors to REPENTANCE.

We must come to the place in our lives where we not only desire to obey the laws of the land, the powers ordained by God to somewhat limit the evils of society, but to also obey the Laws of GOD.  We want and desire to do what God says, not because we have figured out all the logical logistics of His commandments, but because we desire to OBEY HIM REGARDLESS of how well we understand all the reasons why God tells us to do and not do certain things.

Christians will argue;  "Well I don't see the harm in teaching my little ones about Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny."  Of course they don't. To their carnal minds the commandment of God to "Learn NOT THE WAY OF THE HEATHEN" has little or no effect on their attempt to worship God as they please.

When you see the "SIN in sin" and start to hate sin as God hates sin, then and only then will you make progress in eliminating these things in your life. Of course, you know, when I say such things it means that God is bringing this about in your thinking and God is enabling you to have to the power to actually conquer these pulls of the flesh.  All we who have had a measure of success in victory over sin to the point that sin "no longer has DOMINION over us" (Rom. 6:8-19), desired to be free from sin LONG BEFORE IT EVER ACTUALLY CAME ABOUT! I believe that most of my readers will say "A-men" to that!

Be patient and do not stop crying out to God for deliverance, for in time God will grant you the fruit of righteousness.

God be with you,

Ray


All this helps me but I still have my struggles as do most but what Ray says here is so true

When you see the "SIN in sin" and start to hate sin as God hates sin, then and only then will you make progress in eliminating these things in your life.

When you hate it like that then why will you go there again. It's the getting to that place which is part of the unpleasant place of our walk in His truth. God has His time for all of us.

And a big Amen to what Ray says about desiring to be free long before it came about. Being in that place where it has no dominion over you is a wonderful place to be but getting there is not easy. In the mean time you wish you could do it in your own strength but you can't and that's part of the process that God is working out in us and discovering why these things are there and the role they play in our lives. Good news is you and I recognise these things for what they are and all will be well once the work He started is complete.

I have found as time goes on I think I am doing well in various areas and think I am there only to fall again. We deceive ourselves thinking we have arrived at our destination only to realise yes it's nice here but it's not the destination and God has something more yet to do.

Need to understand this

2Co 10:17  "Let the one who boasts, boast in the Lord."
2Co 10:18  For it is not the one who commends himself who is approved, but the one whom the Lord commends.

Rom 11:17  But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, although a wild olive shoot, were grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing root of the olive tree,
Rom 11:18  do not be arrogant toward the branches. If you are, remember it is not you who support the root, but the root that supports you.
Rom 11:19  Then you will say, "Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in."
Rom 11:20  That is true. They were broken off because of their unbelief, but you stand fast through faith. So do not become proud, but fear.
Rom 11:21  For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you.


Rhys

friendofJC:
Alex, God knows we will make mistakes.  I thinks its important that real caring dominates your life so it reigns over lust.  I know giving in creates a habit to satisfy your desires.  Then self control becomes more difficult each time you gratify your sexual desires. Afterwards, guilt comes. Just want to let you know your not alone in the struggle as God humbles us.  It takes his spiritual power to stop this and he only gives it if you really, truly, want it!  A righteous man falls completely and love does cover a multitude of sins.

John from Kentucky:
I really don't want to have to wait till i'm 60+ or the next life for these hormones to die down or things to change. ---Alex

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D   Yeah, I know what you mean Alex.  Every old geezer who hits 60 should get measured for his coffin.  For good measure, we should just go ahead and bury old men.


One thing to consider.  The Scriptures say God will have sons and daughters in the ages to come.

The differences between a spiritual son and a spiritual daughter would be sexual differences because, if they were identical, then they would not be sons or daughters, they would be its.  8)

So, what if a spiritual male finds a spiritual female attractive?  Wouldn't that be a hoot!

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