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Persecution
Nelson Boils:
Here are some statements from Ray on persecution:
"Look up the word "persecution" in any dictionary and then ask yourself if that definition is happening to you? If not, then you may not be"living godly in Christ Jesus." I knew a pastor/teacher who stated before his death (in his late seventies), how thankful he was that we live at a time where there is "NO RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION," and that he had never been persecuted for obeying God. Oh really? Everyone I have ever known who "lived godly in Christ Jesus" SUFFERED PERSECUTION. And I do believe that I can personally speak from experience in this matter myself. Maybe your time just hasn't come yet, or maybe your obedience and conversion is not showing. When it SHOWS, people will persecute you."
and
"I can tell you on the authority of Jesus Christ, God's Word, and the Apostle Paul, that unless you are SUFFERING real PERSECUTION, you are NOT a follower of Jesus Christ nor are you living godly in Christ Jesus!"
and
"There is a giant reason why most professing Christians do NOT suffer persecutions. They may have social, health, and financial problems, but persecutions? Hardly! Why is that? Do you know that more people suffer persecution from their families BEFORE they become Christians than they ever do AFTER they become Christians? Why do you suppose that is? Could it be that as Christians they blend INTO society rather than STICK OUT."
and
""Judgment" means "to set things RIGHT." This can be done by acquittal or by sentencing. We, "the house of God" are being judged NOW (I Pet. 4:17). Jesus is our Judge. We are judged for every word we think, every thing we say, and every deed we do. There are many physical, social, financial, mental, psychological, and spiritual ways in which this is accomplished. If God is calling you to be one of His chosen Elect, then what you call "life" IS THAT JUDGMENT. We are not solely judged for what we do WRONG, but we are judged by being made to live in a world of persecution for doing RIGHT."
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I don't know which persecutionS could be labelled as "real."But, when one looks at the history of the believers,you'll notice that there was a lot of physical deaths and torture.Starting with our own Lord and saviour,then Saul killing those who followed Christ,then the apostles,then there is the time of Tyndale:Where people were killed for having a copy of his bible translation.I mean that's pretty bad and SCARY.I get that we all come across people who will disagree with us about scripture and berate us about our knowledge,but if that's all the persecution a person will receive,perhaps they should consider whether they are living Godly in Jesus Christ.
Actually i faced the possibilities of a physical death or torture from the outsiders, and luckily,God took me out of the firing line before it could get out of control.The cains of this world will kill you for doing the right thing.You are in their way and you need to be removed.
I'm interested to find out who here has faced physical death or torture as a persecution for doing what is right?
rick:
Hello Nelson.
I really need to get an upgrade in both scriptures that are accurate an a decent dictionary too, anyways when the Lord is willing, both will happen for me.
I believe Ray was persecuted quite a bit, all one needs to do is read his e mails, his detractors were very mean to him for telling the truth, that’s all it took. He was accused of being a cult, he was accused of teaching false doctrine and leading people astray, he was told many times that unless he started teaching the truth ( THEIR TRUTH not ( GODS TRUTH ) he was going to hell where there would be no hope for him ever again.
Think how painful a thing it must be to tell someone the truth an they curse you for it ? I mean, the guy cared about people an for his caring he was ridiculed made fun of, yeah, what a hurtful thing.
The act of persecuting (especially on the basis of race or religion)
Don’t you know the only people who will ever persecute you will be the religious people of this world ? The more religious they are the greater your persecution will be also, could even get yourself murdered too.
I have been persecuted ,all one needs to do to get persecuted is simply tell Gods truth to Christendom, I know what I’m talking about because I did tell the truth to people I know.
I even had a couple get up an walk out on me saying to me I was going to hell , not because I was bad to them ,oh no, I was told I’m going to hell because I don’t believe in hell, oh well, what can I say?
If you wish to be persecuted just simply tell the truths you learn here at BT to Christendom an you shall have all the persecution you care for.
But my advise, wait for God to say, go fourth an tell the truth an make sure you know the truth inside an out or you will get ripped apart because they are a pack of wolves who like to devour.
God bless. :)
santgem:
I was persecuted in a daily basis because I am a follower of Christ Jesus. In a dominantly Muslim country i do not have a place especially in my works, home, inside the country. I have to endure the hardships because i am poor and there are not so good consequences if i leave my job. I cannot practice my belief openly or else death is at hand. I have to be very carefull in all my actions and talkings especially in the name of Jesus. All the years it is only Jesus who is protecting me and is always protecting me until this very moment. I give my all but for the Muslim am only as good until they needed me. At the end of the day I endure the hardships because my Lord always makes a way for me to be satisfied. God works in a mysterious ways.
Joel:
Hi Santgem,
It is commendable that you live as you do, without trying to produce your own persecution.
Romans 12:18-If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.
Hebrews 12:14-Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:
Joel
Nelson Boils:
Santgem,am I wrong in saying you live in Asia?I know those areas can be very harsh based on what I see in the news.Hope you get through it friend.
Joel,how does one create their own persecution?
An article reads:
"North Korea remains the most dangerous and difficult place to be a Christian. An estimated 70,000 Christians remain in prison for their faith. The conditions are also worsening for Christians throughout Asia. Countries such as Uzbekistan (15), Vietnam (16) and India (21) have all seen increases in persecution. Of particular note is India (21), where persecution is driven by Islamic extremism and Hindu fundamentalism."
I wonder if these Christians know the truth.If not,is their persecution in vain?
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/6001/islamic-persecution
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