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lauriellen:
All very good and valid points. Looking at and meditating on the wonders of creation always seems to renew my little faith. It is when I look at the human conditions of the world that I start to doubt.
Act 17:24 `God, who did make the world, and all things in it, this One, of heaven and of earth being Lord, in temples made with hands doth not dwell,
Act 17:25 neither by the hands of men is He served--needing anything, He giving to all life, and breath, and all things;
Act 17:26 He made also of one blood every nation of men, to dwell upon all the face of the earth--having ordained times before appointed, and the bounds of their dwellings--
Act 17:27 to seek the Lord, if perhaps they did feel after Him and find, --though, indeed, He is not far from each one of us,
Act 17:28 for in Him we live, and move, and are; as also certain of your poets have said: For of Him also we are offspring.
Paul said God was near to every one of us. In what way is He near? Should we seek the Lord only with our hearts and minds, or also with our eyes and hands to feel after Him? Is it wrong to want to feel some sort of physical connection to God? Or is that just another form of doubt?
lilitalienboi16:
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--- Quote from: lilitalienboi16 on August 11, 2015, 12:22:29 PM ---The more I studied biology the more I was convinced in the belief of a Higher Power, Creator--God.
I am reminded in medical school each day of this marvelous Fact.
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And yet the medical industry as a whole seems to be solidly agnostic if not atheistic. Goes to show that if God isn't working in us that even the things that seem perfectly obvious, in your face and not even needing to be 'spiritual' to understand can go right over our heads. Some of the most intelligent, learned and gifted people in the world such as Stephen Hawkings whose crippled body is relegated to a wheel chair can see no evidence of God in creation. Astounding, isn't it?
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It absolutely blows my mind but its part of that strong delusion. You are absolutely right that unless God is working in you then you are completely and totally blind.
lilitalienboi16:
Lauri,
If you want undeniable proof of intelligent design, study the immune system, it WILL blow you away.
Nature declares God's majesty!
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: lauriellen on August 11, 2015, 02:28:14 PM ---All very good and valid points. Looking at and meditating on the wonders of creation always seems to renew my little faith. It is when I look at the human conditions of the world that I start to doubt.
Act 17:24 `God, who did make the world, and all things in it, this One, of heaven and of earth being Lord, in temples made with hands doth not dwell,
Act 17:25 neither by the hands of men is He served--needing anything, He giving to all life, and breath, and all things;
Act 17:26 He made also of one blood every nation of men, to dwell upon all the face of the earth--having ordained times before appointed, and the bounds of their dwellings--
Act 17:27 to seek the Lord, if perhaps they did feel after Him and find, --though, indeed, He is not far from each one of us,
Act 17:28 for in Him we live, and move, and are; as also certain of your poets have said: For of Him also we are offspring.
Paul said God was near to every one of us. In what way is He near? Should we seek the Lord only with our hearts and minds, or also with our eyes and hands to feel after Him? Is it wrong to want to feel some sort of physical connection to God? Or is that just another form of doubt?
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I don't think its wrong Lauri. We all want to see 'God.' Moses asked to see God in His glory. The apostle asked Jesus, "show us the Father." Thomas said He wouldn't believe unless He could FEEL the holes in Jesus' hands. Paul was on a rampage until he saw God and then was blinded three days before becoming Christendom's greatest champion for the gospel.
Jesus said the pure of heart will SEE God, the same word see is used for when all the tribes of the earth see Jesus in revelation and mourne. This is a literal word for observing with your eyes! John in revelation says we will see God's Face. The angels in heaven are constantly beholding the face of the Father, John said that when He shall appear we shall be like Him for we shall SEE him as He is!
Sure it could all be spiritual speak but why do we assume that? Like I said in another thread, God being invisible spirit means nothing more than UNSEEN and speaks to nothing of the future as far as observing spirit, only that it is currently unseen by us.
I think even the elect are in for a pleasant surprise when God finally brings His very tabernacle to be with men.
Jesus said seek and knock. Come after Him with your WHOLE heart, He wont dissapoint you!
Just remember though that for all that we dont get in this life that the apostles and prophets of old witnessed, we do have that deceleration by Jesus--"Blessed are those who believe and as of yet have NOT SEEN!"
Just my thoughts.
God bless,
Alex
Dave in Tenn:
--- Quote from: lauriellen on August 11, 2015, 02:28:14 PM ---
Act 17:28 for in Him we live, and move, and are; as also certain of your poets have said: For of Him also we are offspring.
Paul said God was near to every one of us. In what way is He near? Should we seek the Lord only with our hearts and minds, or also with our eyes and hands to feel after Him? Is it wrong to want to feel some sort of physical connection to God? Or is that just another form of doubt?
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Can't be nearer than to live, move, and BE in Him. Seems like women who have carried and given birth should understand this better than us guys. We're that close. All we really have to do is un-close our eyes. And when He is in you too, that's pretty near. Do unto others as we would have them do unto us. Whatsoever you do to/for the least of these, you have done to/for Me, He said.
I'll admit though that this is such a thought it is hard to keep in my head all the time.
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