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Losing the Holy Spirit
Rene:
--- Quote from: Terry on October 11, 2015, 06:31:53 AM ---
This post has been much help to me,my heart goes out to Rick as it seems we were cut from the same cloth, i also know we all are in a fight like we've never known before but as hard as it is i still have unspeakable Joy knowing these beautiful truths of God there's so much i don't understand yet, so i try to meditate on what Jesus has shown me so far, i tell you this i'm in Love with this man from Galilee no matter how hard it gets i still feel love and joy.
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Terry, it is nice to hear about the love and joy you are feeling. The indwelling of God's spirit will produce "spiritual fruit" in us and this fruit will be evident in our lives. :)
Gal. 5:22-23 - "But, the fruit of the Spirit is—love, joy, peace, long-suffering, graciousness, goodness, faithfulness, meekness, self-control;—against such things as these, there is no law."
Gal. 5:25 - "If we live by Spirit, by Spirit, let us also walk."
René
octoberose:
Rick, I don't think I understand what you are saying here, " Although we are no different from the rest of humanity we are specially blessed by God to learn these things now which indeed do give us hope for being in the first resurrection and if we discover our hope was false, we know it shall not be false the 2nd time around but with certainty except for those who will not be forgiven in this aged 0r the next age to come because they gave credit to Satan rather than God and by doing so they have committed blasphemy against the Holy Spirit such as the pharisee who said Christ expelled demons by the chief demon."
My question is about "those who will not be forgiven in this age or the next age to come". Just to clarify I don't think you are saying that there are those who will not ultimately be reconciled but the way it is written I am not sure.
This has been a very good discussion- I appreciate those who have posted.
rick:
--- Quote from: Terry on October 11, 2015, 06:31:53 AM ---This post has been much help to me,my heart goes out to Rick as it seems we were cut from the same cloth
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Hi Terry,
You must see things in my writings that you can identify with, you don’t post that much here so I’ve not been afforded the same connection with you of course.
I come from a background of broken promises and a broken home, I have more memories of my mom than my dad, you see he wasn’t there Terry, it’s the hand of cards God dealt me.
Part of my life was spent growing up in the gangsters paradise seeing things and hearing things that are not good for a child to see or hear, no, I have no desire to be a gangster, I want to be a godly man.
I’ve heard it said we are a product of our environment but I don’t believe that because I know what my environment says I should be but am not.
I come to realize the hand of cards God dealt me was not design to beat another man but to beat the man of sin ( me ). Knowing what I know today if I could go back in time and change something in my past I would let it remain because my past is what got me to where I’m at today and all this, design by God.
Many people I’ve know at a young age didn’t make it, some died from a drug overdose and some were murdered but I’m still alive, I believe God wants me to keep living until I receive His truths, God wants me to keep living to the man of sin is conquered.
Yes, God wants me to die before I get to rest in the biggest prison on earth, the grave yard.
If you can relate to these things then we are cut from the same cloth if not I’m happy for you and thankful these things you cannot relate to.
God bless you terry and always remember the things Ray taught, his teaching are from God and God has given us the greatest hope not many in this life have.
God bless. :)
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: octoberose on October 11, 2015, 10:34:04 AM --- Rick, I don't think I understand what you are saying here, " Although we are no different from the rest of humanity we are specially blessed by God to learn these things now which indeed do give us hope for being in the first resurrection and if we discover our hope was false, we know it shall not be false the 2nd time around but with certainty except for those who will not be forgiven in this aged 0r the next age to come because they gave credit to Satan rather than God and by doing so they have committed blasphemy against the Holy Spirit such as the pharisee who said Christ expelled demons by the chief demon."
My question is about "those who will not be forgiven in this age or the next age to come". Just to clarify I don't think you are saying that there are those who will not ultimately be reconciled but the way it is written I am not sure.
This has been a very good discussion- I appreciate those who have posted.
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He is referencing this:
Matthew 12:30-32
30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world [Greek: AGE] , neither in the world [Greek: AGE] to come.
Mar 3:28 Verily, I am saying to you that all shall be pardoned the sons of mankind, the penalties of the sins and the blasphemies, whatsoever they should be blaspheming,
Mar 3:29 yet whoever should be blaspheming against the holy spirit is having no pardon for the eon, but is liable to the eonian penalty for the sin-"
Everyone will ultimately be reconciled.
1 Timothy 2:3-4
3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
Col 1:12-20 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light: Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were ALL THINGS created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: ALL THINGS were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and BY HIM ALL THINGS HACE THEIR COHESION. And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him TO RECONCILE ALL THINGS UNTO HIMSELF; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
God bless,
Alex
rick:
--- Quote from: octoberose on October 11, 2015, 10:34:04 AM ---
My question is about "those who will not be forgiven in this age or the next age to come". Just to clarify I don't think you are saying that there are those who will not ultimately be reconciled but the way it is written I am not sure.
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Hi Octoberose,
My apologies for the confusion, we are in the first age and some in this age are being called by God which are His elect ( the few ) , the next age ( the many )will stand before the white throne judgement but there will be people being born in the next age also that will be like the many in this age who are not being called by God at that time, so there is another aged afterwards where they shall go through the lake of fire as we are now.
We are at the beginning of Gods plan and how many ages Gods plan will take I don’t know but I do know at some age Christ will hand the keys of the kingdom to His Father and our Father and then the ages of reconciliation will then be over and after that I have not a clue what Gods plan will be but I do know there will be no more sorrow or pain or tears and evil will not exist.
And when these things come to pass, every age after that will be awesome beyond our understanding now.
Everyone will eventually be save because that is Gods will and Gods will, will be done but there are at least two more ages of what is going on in this age but Gods elect will not suffer in the next age or any other age afterwards.
God bless. :)
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