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dave:
Out of curiosity I looked up the word “experience” in the Bible, found it used once in Gen. 30:27 once in Ecc. 1:16 and twice in Ro. 5:4.
It was the one in Gen. 30:27 that caused me to wonder.
In Ecc. “experience” is is defined “to see” in
Ro. The word is defined as “to test or prove”
In Gen. 30:27 “experience” is the H5172 from H5175 “serpent” a snake (from its hiss): - serpent. properly to hiss, that is, whisper a (magic) spell; generally to prognosticate: - X certainly, divine, enchanter, (use) X enchantment, learn by experience, X indeed, diligently observe.
Gen 30:27 And saying to him is Laban, "If, pray, I find grace in your eyes! I augur that Yahweh's blessing me is due to your coming.(CLV)
Augur: fortune teller, interpret omens.
Gen 30:27 And Laban said unto him, If now I have found favor in thine eyes, tarry: for I have divined that Jehovah hath blessed me for thy sake. (ASV) Divined: prophesy, to guess; conjecture-to find by intuition. *Rotherham as well.
Gen 30:27 And Laban said unto him, I pray thee, if I have found favour in thine eyes, tarry: for I have learned by experience that the LORD hath blessed me for thy sake.(KJV)
My intention is not to teach, I was just wondering if there could be a parallel when I read Gen. 3:1?
For instance should I write Gen. 3:1 Now the “experience” was more subtil than anything which the Lord God had made.
From my understanding it turned out good for Laban's experience but for mankind it became a “learn by experience, divine” Would I be understanding correctly?
Thanks.
dave:
--- Quote from: micah7:9 on October 17, 2015, 12:11:02 PM ---Out of curiosity I looked up the word “experience” in the Bible, found it used once in Gen. 30:27 once in Ecc. 1:16 and twice in Ro. 5:4.
It was the one in Gen. 30:27 that caused me to wonder.
In Ecc. “experience” is is defined “to see” in
Ro. The word is defined as “to test or prove”
In Gen. 30:27 “experience” is the H5172 from H5175 “serpent” a snake (from its hiss): - serpent. properly to hiss, that is, whisper a (magic) spell; generally to prognosticate: - X certainly, divine, enchanter, (use) X enchantment, learn by experience, X indeed, diligently observe.
Gen 30:27 And saying to him is Laban, "If, pray, I find grace in your eyes! I augur that Yahweh's blessing me is due to your coming.(CLV)
Augur: fortune teller, interpret omens.
Gen 30:27 And Laban said unto him, If now I have found favor in thine eyes, tarry: for I have divined that Jehovah hath blessed me for thy sake. (ASV) Divined: prophesy, to guess; conjecture-to find by intuition. *Rotherham as well.
Gen 30:27 And Laban said unto him, I pray thee, if I have found favour in thine eyes, tarry: for I have learned by experience that the LORD hath blessed me for thy sake.(KJV)
My intention is not to teach, I was just wondering if there could be a parallel when I read Gen. 3:1?
For instance should I write Gen. 3:1 Now the “experience” was more subtil than anything which the Lord God had made.
From my understanding it turned out good for Laban's experience but for mankind it became a “learn by experience, divine” Would I be understanding correctly?
Thanks.
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To be sure my post was not an attempt to replace the work of the serpent/adversary. It was just the thought of the word "experience" and it's definition in Gen. 30:27.
Dave in Tenn:
I'm not really seeing what you are asking. They aren't the same Hebrew words, but I'm not following the trail of 'definitions'.
dave:
This is what got my thought...
Gen. 30:27 “experience” H5172
נָחַשׁ
nâchash
naw-khash'
A primitive root; properly to hiss, that is, whisper a (magic) spell; generally to prognosticate: - X certainly, divine, enchanter, (use) X enchantment, learn by experience, X indeed, diligently observe.
Gen. 3:1 “serpent” H5175
נָחָשׁ
nâchâsh
naw-khawsh'
From H5172; a snake (from its hiss): - serpent.
Jeff:
Micah,
What you wrote seems interesting but I'm not sure what you're getting at. Can you provide more specific thought? What do you believe you've encountered?
Jeff
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