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lilitalienboi16:
God knew us before we were even born, that would imply the 'ol indiana bob' part too. God isn't just a passive observer of this creation. He is the potter and HE MAKES vessels of honor AND dishonor. He subjected ALL to vanity.

Jeremiah 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

Not even Paul, whom committed unspeakable horrors, could escape the plans God had for him because from the womb he had been set apart to fullfill the purpose God created him for. I have to believe that includes the evils he committed before he was converted. No one is free to operate outside of God's law which is how God is working all things.

Gal 1:13-16
13 For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:
14 And profited in the Jews' religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my fathers.
15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,
16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:

Psa 139:16 Your eyes saw my embryo, And my days, all of them were written upon Your scroll; The days were formed When there was not one of them." (clv)

Psalm 139:16 Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be. (???)

Psa 139:16  Your eyes looked upon my embryo, and everything was recorded in your book. The days scheduled for my formation were inscribed, even though not one of them had come yet. (ISV)

Isa 49:1  "Listen to me, you coastlands! Pay attention, you people from far away! The LORD called me from the womb; while I was still in my mother's body, he pronounced my name. (ISV)

Job 14:1-5

1 Man that is born of a woman is of few days and full of trouble.
2 He cometh forth like a flower, and is cut down: he fleeth also as a shadow, and continueth not.
3 And doth thou open thine eyes upon such an one, and bringest me into judgment with thee?
4 Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? not one.
5 Seeing his days are determined, the number of his months are with thee, thou hast appointed his bounds that he cannot pass;

Ephesians 1:3-6
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

Ephesians 2:10 For we are God's handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.
 
2 Timothy 1:9-11
9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:
11 Whereunto I am appointed a preacher, and an apostle, and a teacher of the Gentiles.

Romans 9:17-23
17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

The Word of God is living, I just do not see in any of the Word a passive God who is not intricately working and moving things. I don't see a hands off God who simply knows but one who is actively teaching this creation by an experience of evil what it means to be like Him.

God bless,
Alex

judy:
An example, "No one can make a statement out of his mouth, unless it was pre-ordained, forknown and approved by God" Once I was standing on a rather large hill with other people, they were talking and enjoying the graduation of my daughter from college when all of a sudden without any apparent thought I just said, "does anyone recall the statement, "now you see me, now you don't" Why did I say this????? No subject along this line was in conversation. I then proceeded to fall down the hill landing with a tree between my legs. How's that for God! To this day I have no idea why that came out of my mouth. It took them 10 minutes of laughing before they even tried to get me back up!!!! Many times I have spoken of coming events, now I listen to myself because it might be a word from God. truthfully, judy

Jeff:

--- Quote from: judy on October 26, 2015, 09:30:35 AM ---An example, "No one can make a statement out of his mouth, unless it was pre-ordained, forknown and approved by God" Once I was standing on a rather large hill with other people, they were talking and enjoying the graduation of my daughter from college when all of a sudden without any apparent thought I just said, "does anyone recall the statement, "now you see me, now you don't" Why did I say this????? No subject along this line was in conversation. I then proceeded to fall down the hill landing with a tree between my legs. How's that for God! To this day I have no idea why that came out of my mouth. It took them 10 minutes of laughing before they even tried to get me back up!!!! Many times I have spoken of coming events, now I listen to myself because it might be a word from God. truthfully, judy

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Thank you Judy.  You made my day :)

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