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Jeff:
I was praying about something tonight and I think it was clear that "trust Me and be patient" is what I need to do.  So I wanted to read about trust and patience (56 years and I'm still trying to learn something like this).

I was wondering if someone could help me understand this verse?

This from Young's Literal Translation

Job 39:11 "Dost thou trust in him because great is his power? And dost thou leave unto him thy labour?"

My understanding says that Job is being asked if he's willing to trust God in spite of his dire circumstances, but I'm not entirely sure.

Jeff

cheekie3:
Jeff -

I have meditated on this for a very long time.

My conclusion is that faith, trust and believe are all the same. Also, hope.

I personally look at this - like this - God instructs you to walk blind (as you do not know what will happen) and trust Him, as He is in control of all things.

I equate this as walking off a cliff or tall building and trusting Him to keep you alive and not fall.

We have some that believe in self power or wealth or power. Whatever (I really hate this word by the way).

But the ultimate question is who controls the rich, who is giving them their wealth and power.

Obviously it is The Lord God Almighty; as He is All in All. Ultimately, when His Plan for His Creation (Mankind, Angels and the rest) is completed - He will be All in All in Righteousness.

The beauty is that even the elite of this world who steal from the working class to make themselves wealthy will ultimately see themselves as they really are, repent and be purified by Him.

Even our mistakes and sins have a preordained purpose. When He enlightens us to His Truth, we should be yearning to not sin and do Right and please Him - but only He can give each one of us the ability to fulfill our Hearts desires. Or put another way - He brings about our desire to do Good, and then He enables us to fulfill our heart's desires.

I hope this helps.

In Holy Spirit.

George.

indianabob:
Well said George,

One other thing I have learned and am still learning.
Try as I might, I cannot do rightly on my own strength.
It is almost as if God has reduced my strength in certain areas to teach me how much I need Him and to communicate with Him each day.
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I used to think that I could do right for a couple of weeks at a time without prayer and fasting.
More recently, as I get closer to the end of my journey, I have to acknowledge that my own strength last only a couple of days, if that, and then temptation raises it's ugly head once again.

My thought is that after we are changed to spirit we will no longer harbor such thoughts. Then we will know even as we are known. We need the LORD God every moment as long as we live, even forever!

Indiana Bob

cheekie3:
Indiana Bob -

I see Good like this:

Jesus Christ's Father was in Him doing all His Good Works; and Jesus did not sin at all.

When His Elect in this age do Good, it is because Jesus lives in their hearts - and where Jesus is, His Father is also.

So when His Elect do Good, it is really The Father through His Son (in His Elect or His Body) that is doing the Good - if you like this is a preview of when God will be All in All (in Righteousness).

Although His Elect do not take credit for doing His Good Works - nevertheless, The Father has decided to conduct His Good Works through His Son and His Son's Body (the True Church of His Called Out Ones).

In Humility.

George.

judy:
Indiana Bob, last thing i want to do sometimes is pray. it feels dry and empty but as i continue it gets better. i have to pray more by the hour some day , I slide down quickly when i don't. I think that dry empty prayer is is the hardest to start, so many other things rrab my attention. If only for a minute or two even helps. I never force myself too hard, found out it better to call on the Holy Spirit.

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