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Fellowship
Kat:
Hi Wittenberg,
Well you have invited them to join you, so you will have to see where it goes. Unless their eyes have not been opened, which I'm sure you already know can only happen by God, then it is a useless undertaking, no amount of showing them Scripture that prove what you're saying will help. Not only that, once they understand just what it is that you are saying, they may very well turn on you.
Matt 7:6 "Never give what is holy to dogs or throw your pearls before pigs. Otherwise, they will trample them with their feet and then turn around and attack you." (ISV)
Now as long as they are willing to be open minded and will consider what you are saying, then that is good and productive and worth pursuing. But if it gets to the point where you find they are only interested in arguing their point and unwilling or unable to understand what you plainly show with the Scripture, then you will know there will be no getting through to them. The carnal mind can only understand the literal interpretation on Scripture, the spiritual is just beyond their comprehension, it's takes God's Spirit to give spiritual understanding.
Rom 8:5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit.
v. 6 For to be carnally minded is (spiritual) death, but to be spiritually minded is (spiritual) life and peace.
We all long for fellowship with like minded people and a few do live near other believers, but most of us have to make do by coming here and of course there is email and phones. Once you get used to this kind of communication it works pretty good and it's what God has provided, so it is a blessing.
Here are a couple emails.
http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,2537.0.html ----
Don't try to convert anyone. Be the best wife, mother, and friend that anyone could have, and THAT is the best thing that you and everyone else can do (unless you are a man, then, of course, the best husband, etc.,). You will never, ever, ever win someone over by a clever argument with the Scriptures. There are two reason why I do this and you shouldn't: [1] I am being a witness AGAINST all the heretics that attack me and the Truths of God, and [2] my answers to their foolish and unscriptural arguments are a great teaching tool for all those who read our site and who visit our Forum.
But in my private life, I do not try to convert, convince, change, etc., my neighbors and acquaintences. I will tell them the truth about God and the Scriptures, but I do not make a pest of myself. If and when people ask you, give them only as much as then need and are willing to accept. If they desire more, they will come back.
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Unless God is calling and dealing with someone in a special way, they are usually offended by God's Word. They truly despise the Word of God without knowing it. What it is is a major proof of the truthfulness of God's Word. It takes a miracle to be as stubborn as most Christians are to God's Word, and that especially includes ministers.
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mercy, peace and love
Kat
Rhys 🕊:
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http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,6844.0.html -------
Unless God is calling and dealing with someone in a special way, they are usually offended by God's Word. They truly despise the Word of God without knowing it. What it is is a major proof of the truthfulness of God's Word. It takes a miracle to be as stubborn as most Christians are to God's Word, and that especially includes ministers.
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So much truth in a few sentences
Jeff:
I think it's wonderful that you've found people to meet with. I don't miss the church, and its teachings, but I sorely miss the fellowship.
Either God has created circumstances in which he'll bring someone to the truth, or He hasn't, but you won't know unless you try.
If what you've found is by Gods spirit, then much fruit will be experienced.
Please keep us in the loop as to how things are going. I love to hear that people's minds are being opened to the Truths of Scripture.
In Christ, your brother, Jeff
Joel:
I don't think it will take you very long to find the answer to this question.
Amos 3:3-Can two walk together, except they be agreed?
Joel
Dave in Tenn:
--- Quote from: Wittenberg on November 22, 2015, 07:44:16 PM ---I'm starting a bible study with 3 friends. One of the friends believes in the restoration of all things and two others dont. I wanted to know if anyone here has done this before and how it went? Any insights on how to be fed and bless the others that are yet to believe that Jesus will save all. Is it even a good idea to fellowship with those that don't believe? I really care about all of these guys and spend time with them outside of a bible study envirnment.
Thanks for any input.
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I haven't done anything like this, so I don't obviously have any practical advice. I don't even know that I would call such a thing a 'fellowship' because fellowship is about agreement. To be honest, I wouldn' even know how to 'do' a 'bible study' with anybody else regardless of the what they already believed.
But I've been thinking about this since this post (and also after some similar posts) and I have some questions for you.
1. What would constitute 'success' for the endeavor?
2. What would that success mean to you?
3. What would constitute 'failure' for the endeavor?
4. What would that failure mean to you?
Seems to me sometimes we just have to do what it is on our hearts to do. Jesus is Lord. Ultimately, there is no 'bad' thing that can come of a 'good work', though the twists and turns, corrections and paitience He works in us can be difficult---those trials produce good results. It's a win-now or win-later situation, and Jesus is Lord of all, including the timing.
I hope no matter what you do, you can be moved to share results.
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