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New years resolution .
rick:
--- Quote from: Rhys on January 02, 2016, 03:45:49 PM ---These passages are a good help when thinking of this area
Pro 16:1 The plans of the heart belong to man, but the answer of the tongue is from the LORD.
Pro 16:2 All the ways of a man are pure in his own eyes, but the LORD weighs the spirit.
Pro 16:3 Commit your work to the LORD, and your plans will be established.
Pro 16:4 The LORD has made everything for its purpose, even the wicked for the day of trouble.
Pro 16:5 Everyone who is arrogant in heart is an abomination to the LORD; be assured, he will not go unpunished.
Pro 16:6 By steadfast love and faithfulness iniquity is atoned for, and by the fear of the LORD one turns away from evil.
Pro 16:7 When a man's ways please the LORD, he makes even his enemies to be at peace with him.
Pro 16:8 Better is a little with righteousness than great revenues with injustice.
Pro 16:9 The heart of man plans his way, but the LORD establishes his steps.
Php 3:12 Not that I have already obtained this or am already perfect, but I press on to make it my own, because Christ Jesus has made me his own.
Php 3:13 Brothers, I do not consider that I have made it my own. But one thing I do: forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead,
Php 3:14 I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus.
Php 3:15 Let those of us who are mature think this way, and if in anything you think otherwise, God will reveal that also to you.
The majority don't have the spiritual maturity to what really matters.
So man makes plans as we all do but it's the Lord who has the final say of what is to be or not to be.
When people then say it was me and I did this it's the belief that seems a waste of time. But what seems a waste of time is God working in them as He wills.
I get frustrated with the ways of the world at times, the I, I, I and me, me ,me stuff
But need to remember
John 16:33 I have said these things to you, that in me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation. But take heart; I have overcome the world."
Rhys
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Hi Rhys,
There is so much wisdom in proverbs and greater is it's wisdom when God gives one its understanding.
rick:
--- Quote from: Kat on January 02, 2016, 11:34:26 AM ---
--- Quote from: Rick on January 01, 2016, 03:17:02 PM ---News years eve the whole world is making some kind of resolution to stop doing something's in their life that are not healthy or good.
Although most if not all are sincere but do not realize that free will is not an option and no one stops anything in their life with success until God says so.
New years resolutions are a wast of time an belong to the blind ones of this age but not so long ago I too was blind in that way not that I see everything but believing God controls all thing
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When people of this world do anything it is never apparent to them that it is God causing it, therefore they do feel they have a free will, as we once did. But there certainly is things that many people do overcome in their lives in one way or another, and not because they are seeking God's will, but because that is part of the good in the world. So yes they are blind to spiritual truths, but God works through all sorts of means to bring about changes for the good in the lives of some people. So a new years resolution is just another one of the ways that God may motivate people to change or not to change in a way that He has already determined they would.
So I would not say striving to do good, by a resolution or whatever means, is a waste of time, it could be just another one of the unseen ways that God is working in somebody's life. That would not effect that God is in control of all things and sovereign at all.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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Hi Kat,
I believe New years resolutions is not only a waist of time but its a sin too. Its true.
Dave in Tenn:
I know these 'resolutions' weren't made on New Years Day, but they are 'resolutions' still:
Act_18:6 And when they opposed themselves, and blasphemed, he shook his raiment, and said unto them, Your blood be upon your own heads; I am clean: from henceforth I will go unto the Gentiles.
Rom_15:18 For I will not dare to speak of any of those things which Christ hath not wrought by me, to make the Gentiles obedient, by word and deed,
Rom_15:24 Whensoever I take my journey into Spain, I will come to you: for I trust to see you in my journey, and to be brought on my way thitherward by you, if first I be somewhat filled with your company.
Rom_15:28 When therefore I have performed this, and have sealed to them this fruit, I will come by you into Spain.
1Co_16:5 Now I will come unto you, when I shall pass through Macedonia: for I do pass through Macedonia.
1Co_16:6 And it may be that I will abide, yea, and winter with you, that ye may bring me on my journey whithersoever I go.
2Co_11:12 But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
2Co_12:14 Behold, the third time I am ready to come to you; and I will not be burdensome to you: for I seek not yours, but you: for the children ought not to lay up for the parents, but the parents for the children.
2Co_13:2 I told you before, and foretell you, as if I were present, the second time; and being absent now I write to them which heretofore have sinned, and to all other, that, if I come again, I will not spare:
Phm_1:19 I Paul have written it with mine own hand, I will repay it: albeit I do not say to thee how thou owest unto me even thine own self besides.
2Pe_1:12 Wherefore I will not be negligent to put you always in remembrance of these things, though ye know them, and be established in the present truth.
2Pe_1:15 Moreover I will endeavour that ye may be able after my decease to have these things always in remembrance.
3Jn_1:10 Wherefore, if I come, I will remember his deeds which he doeth, prating against us with malicious words: and not content therewith, neither doth he himself receive the brethren, and forbiddeth them that would, and casteth them out of the church.
Yes, I know very well that the results of any intention of my will is in the Hands of the Lord and that we cannot do anything except what He foreknew...but to say 'making new year's resolutions is a "sin" sounds religious to me, and over-righteous. It could be that making resolutions is a means by which God reveals His sovereignty and tests our hearts, but to completely negate the 'making of resolutions' as a sin makes sinners of the Apostles.
rick:
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on January 03, 2016, 12:44:05 AM ---I know these 'resolutions' weren't made on New Years Day, but they are 'resolutions' still:
Act_18:6 And when they opposed themselves, and blasphemed, he shook his raiment, and said unto them, Your blood be upon your own heads; I am clean: from henceforth I will go unto the Gentiles.
Rom_15:18 For I will not dare to speak of any of those things which Christ hath not wrought by me, to make the Gentiles obedient, by word and deed,
Rom_15:24 Whensoever I take my journey into Spain, I will come to you: for I trust to see you in my journey, and to be brought on my way thitherward by you, if first I be somewhat filled with your company.
Rom_15:28 When therefore I have performed this, and have sealed to them this fruit, I will come by you into Spain.
1Co_16:5 Now I will come unto you, when I shall pass through Macedonia: for I do pass through Macedonia.
1Co_16:6 And it may be that I will abide, yea, and winter with you, that ye may bring me on my journey whithersoever I go.
2Co_11:12 But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
2Co_12:14 Behold, the third time I am ready to come to you; and I will not be burdensome to you: for I seek not yours, but you: for the children ought not to lay up for the parents, but the parents for the children.
2Co_13:2 I told you before, and foretell you, as if I were present, the second time; and being absent now I write to them which heretofore have sinned, and to all other, that, if I come again, I will not spare:
Phm_1:19 I Paul have written it with mine own hand, I will repay it: albeit I do not say to thee how thou owest unto me even thine own self besides.
2Pe_1:12 Wherefore I will not be negligent to put you always in remembrance of these things, though ye know them, and be established in the present truth.
2Pe_1:15 Moreover I will endeavour that ye may be able after my decease to have these things always in remembrance.
3Jn_1:10 Wherefore, if I come, I will remember his deeds which he doeth, prating against us with malicious words: and not content therewith, neither doth he himself receive the brethren, and forbiddeth them that would, and casteth them out of the church.
Yes, I know very well that the results of any intention of my will is in the Hands of the Lord and that we cannot do anything except what He foreknew...but to say 'making new year's resolutions is a "sin" sounds religious to me, and over-righteous. It could be that making resolutions is a means by which God reveals His sovereignty and tests our hearts, but to completely negate the 'making of resolutions' as a sin makes sinners of the Apostles.
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Hi Dave,
There is a huge difference between what God says will come to pass and what man says what will come to pass , the apostles spoke the inspired word of God.
Ray was clear when he said when we say we will do this or do that we stand in the temple of God claiming to be God and that is a sin like any other sin.
It is the belief of free will which no human being has that is the sin we commit when we do such a thing.
we know God does not sin nor does God tempt anyone to sin so why would anyone think that God would cause anyone to claim to be God with a new years resolution ?
Dave in Tenn:
I just showed you 13 passages where the apostles said they would or would not do a certain thing. I'm pretty sure they did not believe in a 'free'-will. And I am to emulate them, as I am not one.
I could just as easily show you 13 more where they phrased their intentions with "if God wills" or some other words to that effect. Did they say it 'right' here and 'wrong' above? You can't get me to believe that. No...it's all about the heart and 'belief', not in the 'expressing the intention to do or not do'.
I'd like to see that quote from Ray to see first if it's accurate or secondly if there is more meat hanging on that bone. Could be I could use the refresher.
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