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rick:

--- Quote from: indianabob on January 21, 2016, 01:43:36 PM ---Rick,
Not sure what you meant.
Could you explain a lot more or better.
Inquiring minds want to know.
I-bob

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Hi Bob,

Sure, what my meaning is was simply this, as I look at myself which God shows me is that everything we do is totally self centered.

Everything we do is meant for us to benefit one way or the other. If anyone wants to understand anyone else all they need to do is take a good look at themselves.

And this includes helping a old feeble women cross the street, a totally self centered act even though it seems noble.

God bless all.

lauriellen:
"The destiny of the human race is indeed GLORIOUS, but the journey is filled with evil and sorrow. This is not to say that there are not many beautiful and good things in life, but for most, the misery far far outweighs the pleasurable." -Ray

No truer words were ever spoken. I have seen enough misery and loss that I can hardly bare it. I watch friends and family around me, pillars of our 'Christian' community, who are so sure that God is not responsible for any of it...blissfully unaware...I wonder how quickly they would buckle under the weight of knowing that God is not only responsible, but all of their evils and sorrows are and always were a part of God's plan. I don't think many could handle that truth.

lilitalienboi16:

--- Quote from: lauriellen on January 21, 2016, 08:00:58 PM ---"The destiny of the human race is indeed GLORIOUS, but the journey is filled with evil and sorrow. This is not to say that there are not many beautiful and good things in life, but for most, the misery far far outweighs the pleasurable." -Ray

No truer words were ever spoken. I have seen enough misery and loss that I can hardly bare it. I watch friends and family around me, pillars of our 'Christian' community, who are so sure that God is not responsible for any of it...blissfully unaware...I wonder how quickly they would buckle under the weight of knowing that God is not only responsible, but all of their evils and sorrows are and always were a part of God's plan. I don't think many could handle that truth.

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Lauri,

Just yesterday I was out to lunch with some classmates between classes. They were talking about how donald trump spoke at our school and how he wasn't a real christian. I asked them, what is a 'real christian?' They told me that anyone who denies the trinity is pretty much a heretic and that trump is just talking to get the vote. I asked them, where in the bible does it talk about the trinity? I told them, I don't believe in the trinity. One of them promptly told me , 'Well then I don't consider you a christian.' I said , 'ouch.' To which I then gave them a few of my scriptures and arguments against the trinity. One of them concieded he had never heard the things I was saying and was silent. The other proceed to prod me some more about my beliefs. He then said, to one of my replies, 'that's like saying God ordained the crusades.' I responded, 'well God did plan the for the crusades to take place.' He said, 'no way.' I continued, 'Yea, God even says He creates evil in Isaiah, and Job asks 'shall we recieved good at the hand of the Lord and not also evil?' Amos asks rhetorically 'shall their be evil in a city, and has not the Lord done it?' They were floored, jaws dropping. The one who was probing me went as far as to say that the Isaiah verse didn't exist. I told him, 'Its isaiah 45 I believe.' They had enough of me at that point. They kindly agreed to disagree and we left it at that.

I don't know what came of it, I feel like nothing for me and I don't know if I am to blame for these discussions taking place or if it is merely God and His wisdom doing things I can't always understand. I hate conversations like that, I think to myself, 'Alex what are you doing?' You know they won't agree.' I don't know...

So yea.. definitely relate to what you're saying. Its a lonely walk Lauri, so very very lonely. Thank God for the good times and His spirit, and the glorious future that each day draws ever the nearer!

God bless,
Alex

lauriellen:
Thanks for that Alex. I can definitely relate to your story. While listening to conversations around me, I sometimes wonder how they would react if they only REALLY understood and knew the truth of God creating and using evil, no free will, etc. They would definitely reject the message and messenger now. I think perhaps the human mind just cannot conceive of a God who is love and good, also using evil to the extent and extreme that is happening in humanity. I can hardly wrap my mind around it, even tho I know it is true.
And yes, it is a very very, very lonely and sorrowful walk.

lilitalienboi16:

--- Quote from: lauriellen on January 21, 2016, 08:48:21 PM ---Thanks for that Alex. I can definitely relate to your story. While listening to conversations around me, I sometimes wonder how they would react if they only REALLY understood and knew the truth of God creating and using evil, no free will, etc. They would definitely reject the message and messenger now. I think perhaps the human mind just cannot conceive of a God who is love and good, also using evil to the extent and extreme that is happening in humanity. I can hardly wrap my mind around it, even tho I know it is true.
And yes, it is a very very, very lonely and sorrowful walk.

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*Hug* We're going to make it Lauri. We're going to finish this race. I had a wonderful dream once, of all of us, together. What a feeling it was, what a dream.

Love to you,
Alex

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