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Rocky:
Ive been so fascinated by Ray's teaching about "eternal damnation" Lake of Fire etc. that I cant recall seeing much about his view on end time events in relation to the traditional views on Daniel 70th week, building of third temple (literally) anti-christ etc. I did read his study on "The Beast out of the Sea" also found it fascinating and I realize that Ray taught from the book of Revelation a lot, but being a prophecy junkie for most of my 53 yrs I was very interested in his take on these or a least some of these topics. I'm coming to understand that whats been missing in my understanding scripture (all scripture from Gen-Rev) has been to carnal for too long and only by SPIRITual discernment will we ever know the true meaning. I guess the simple question is can someone recommend some info from the website, pages, articles email that address some of these topics.
New to the sight
Rocky
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: Rocky on January 29, 2016, 02:09:30 AM ---Ive been so fascinated by Ray's teaching about "eternal damnation" Lake of Fire etc. that I cant recall seeing much about his view on end time events in relation to the traditional views on Daniel 70th week, building of third temple (literally) anti-christ etc. I did read his study on "The Beast out of the Sea" also found it fascinating and I realize that Ray taught from the book of Revelation a lot, but being a prophecy junkie for most of my 53 yrs I was very interested in his take on these or a least some of these topics. I'm coming to understand that whats been missing in my understanding scripture (all scripture from Gen-Rev) has been to carnal for too long and only by SPIRITual discernment will we ever know the true meaning. I guess the simple question is can someone recommend some info from the website, pages, articles email that address some of these topics.
New to the sight
Rocky
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Hello Rocky,
Welcome to the forums. As you have seen, ray wrote extensively on many subjects, especially the beast and the anti-Christ.
You've also become aware that there is no understanding the scriptures so long as we remain carnal because the carnal man receives not the things of God.
Romans 8:5-7
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
1 Corinthians 2:13-15
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
So how do we get understanding? Well that is something that comes only from God. He gives us eyes and ears to hear and see. There are no shortcuts to understanding the word of God.
Zechariah 4:6 Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the Lord unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the Lord of hosts.
Matthew 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
Luke 24:45 Then opened He their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
I recommend you go back and start with the first article in the lake of fire series and make sure you don't skip around. If it is God's plan to reveal these truths to you now then your questions will be answered in time but not before nor any bit later than the appointed time God has set.
Revelation is perhaps one of the hardest book in all of scriptures and as you've admitted to being carnal it is certainly not a book you will understand at this time but going through ray's articles may very well change that if, as I said, God plans thus. The same can be said for the book of Daniel.
I hope you still stick around with us and continue to learn and grow. We are happy to have you here with us. If you run into anything that is very difficult to understand or arouses questions in you when you're reading through what ray has written then please don't hesitate to ask.
You might also enjoy knowing this section exists where ray has more audio's and video's not on the home page:
Audio: http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/board,13.0.html
Transcript of Audio: http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/board,12.0.html
Videos: http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/board,20.0.html
God bless,
Alex
Rocky:
Alex thanks for the reply and links. I'm watching a video right now.
Kat:
Hi rocky, welcome to the forum :)
I did find one email that pertained to the end times.
http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,1603.0.html
> I just have one question, where do you stand on the belief of this being
> the end times as portrayed by the mainstream christian churchs, I,m
> sure this is very important to many people. Myself I feel god gave us
> the indications of the end times to increase our faith in the last days
> when the deciever is at his strongest.
> You are the only one out there that Ive seen that actually makes sense
> of many heartfelt issues in many people! Please keep up the good work,
> Sincerely Bruce
Dear Bruce:
What I personally believe doesn't amount to an ant hill. What we need to know is what God believes. Let me give you a LAW that you can live with: "If the Church teaches it, it is probably not true." Remember that. Jesus didn't say that "faith would increase" before He came. Jesus asked if there would be ANY FAITH AT ALL when He returned. I wish that all of you could come to our September Conference in Mobile, as I am going to really hammer home what the Bible says is really important for us to know and do.
Too many people are interested in prophecy and all for the wrong reasons. If you can come to understand what it is that God desires of us, we don't need to care one iota as to when the "end" is coming. I vertually never ever think or talk or teach about WHEN the end of this age is, but rather WHAT it is that we need to be doing before it comes, and what we will be doing after Christ returns.
God be with you,
Ray
rick:
Hi Rocky,
Welcome to the forum.
Man, I can sure relate to the things your saying, I was at one time into such things myself , but what brought me here to B.T was a question I been asking God for a long time.
Is there really a place called HELL, God answered my Question but it took me time to except this truth . Learning about God and His plan for saving all humanity is awesome and even more awesome is learning how much God loves us,
God bless.
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