> General Discussions

Fasting?

(1/5) > >>

stello:
Hello everyone,

What really is fasting?  Should i fast every week? month? Thanks!

stello

Kat:
Hi Stello,

We have a list here on the forum compiled from Professor C. Tischendorf’s notes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantin_von_Tischendorf) on the readings of the two oldest Greek manuscripts (mid 1800's), the Sinaitic and the Vatican #1209 as to which Scripture that are considered spurious and are omitted by both the Sinaitic and Vatican Manuscripts;
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,6638.0.html. I will put the pertinent Scripture here and mark through the words consider spurious according to his list.

Matt 17:20  So Jesus said to them, "Because of your unbelief; for assuredly, I say to you, if you have faith as a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move; and nothing will be impossible for you.
v. 21  However, this kind does not go out except by prayer and fasting."

Mark 9:29  So He said to them, "This kind can come out by nothing but prayer and fasting."

1Cor 7:5  Do not deprive one another except with consent for a time, that you may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again so that Satan does not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.

Isn't that interesting... now I am not implying that there may not be any good purpose for fasting, but this would eliminate some of the primary Scripture that the church use to promote it. Here are a couple of emails on this.

http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,2260.0.html ----------

Hi, Ray, I wondered where you stood on fasting.  I find that it doesn't usually make that much difference to the outcome of my prayers, but some people say you've got to pay the price to get answers from God, and personal suffering is one of the strongest proofs that you mean business with Jesus.  I'm wrestling with a big problem and somebody indicated that I won't get my miracle unless I fast for it. Isn't that attitude a litte like the priests of Baal who tried to pay their god for his favor by slashing themselves with knives?
     
    Have a great day!  Patricia

    Dear Patricia;

    I hear TV preachers talk about how they fasted or how that they just finished a 2-day, 5-day, two-week fast. 'Me thinks' however, that they lie. And even if they aren't lying, they just lost any benefit by telling the whole world about it.

    Fasting (without food or water) may be benefical to draw closer to God.  It may even be beneficial for health. But I do not believe that it will CAUSE God to do whatever it is that you have need of.

    Jesus tells us that His words are "SPIRIT" (John 6:63).  And here is a portion of Scripture which speaks to the subject of "spiritual fasting"--"...Is not THIS the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that you break every yoke?...." (Isa. 6-11).

    Hope this helps you,


http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,2329.0.html ------------

Dear Ray
 
I need scriptural confirmation on exactly the kind of fast that God prescribes. Should we fast til 6 pm or fast without food and water for 3 days stretch. The bible seems to record fasting that was completely devoid of food and drink. Is this the type of fast that God desires. Moses went up for 40 days and nites, no food or water. Jesus went to the wilderness for 40 days, no food and water.
 
Is this THE way to fast?
Kola, Nigeria
 
Dear Kola:
"Is not THIS THE FAST that I have chosen?  To loose the bands of wicknedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke?......" Through the rest of the chapter...(Isa. 58:6-14).
 
God be with you,
Ray

Mike Gagne:
I personally never fasted, and see no need for it. God has answered all my prayers that are according to his will. Some times its right after I pray that I get what I prayed for and some times it takes a bit of time and I see that some answer to my prayers takes a time of learning or studying to get them answered. God is faithful and just, but in His time and that also help me in many areas in my walk through the fire...

what I see in Daniel, 3:25   
     He answered and said lo, I see two men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the second is like the Son of God....

 Theres my prayers in the midst of the fire being answered!!  Glory to God

 to the brethren , Righteousness, Peace and Joy

lilitalienboi16:
Ray's reference to Isaiah is amazing. It really shows that no verse becomes its own interpretation and that with two witnesses we compare spiritual with spiritual.

A reminder:

John 4:23-24
23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Matthew 22:36-41
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Romans 13:8-10
8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

John 12:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.

John 15:2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.

John 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

John 15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

Romans 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

1 Corinthians 15:31 I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily.

John 3:30 He must increase, but I must decrease.

Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Gal 5:22 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

Fasting from physical food is nothing but our filthy rags, our own works, but the spirit of God and good works are those fruits of the spirit. They come only from and by God. The old man must die. Worship IN SPIRIT and truth!

God bless,
Alex

Mike Gagne:
Ok Alex, here my second witness

1Co 3:13  Mikes work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try Mikes work of what sort it is.

Don't know if your statement was ment for me?

The truth is it is all one and it all fits. Yes to establish a truth 2 witnesses are needed, but let's not deny the truth of any scripture. You can give several witnesses to some and they won't see it. and you can give one witness to some and they will see it all through out his word!  And it is in his word where we worship in spirit and truth and some have that word working right in there heart.

Peace to the brethren 

Navigation

[0] Message Index

[#] Next page