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Help Me Understand Universialism
JAH:
I've been interested in the topic of universialism for the last few months. I'd like to know for those who believe in this doctrine if it's true how do you explain these verses?
Matthew 7:21-23-Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!
1 Corinthians 6:10- nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
These verses sound very serious to the point where there will be people that won't enter the Kingdom of God. So if Christ died for all and all will be reconciled with God how do you explain these verses?
Extol:
JAH,
Your questions assume too much. You are assuming that the verse in Matthew says "Depart from me FOREVER..." Likewise you assume that we believe thieves and drunkards will be saved as thieves and drunkards. Some "universalists" do teach that, but we certainly don't. This is a forum to discuss Ray Smith's writings, and Ray wrote PLENTY about judgment. He wrote more about judgment than many famous theologians and authors who teach eternal damnation.
I suggest you read Ray's Lake of Fire series, found on the Bible Truths homepage. It will take a long time, but it's well worth it and will answer the basic questions you have concerning universal salvation.
Dennis Vogel:
Jesse is right. You'll have to do more than a little studying. But the short answer is thieves, covetous, drunkards,revilers, extortioners, etc. will be cleansed in the Lake of Fire and will then enter the Kingdom. I suggest you start reading. The truth will set you free.
arion:
Agree with the above. Jah, you'll have to contribute some elbow grease if you want to understand and understanding will only come if God opens your mind and spirit to his truth. Start with the Lake of Fire series and work your way through it. What we have been taught in the churches and church systems are error. Ray goes through it precept by precept and step by step using scriptures and only scripture....but it won't come overnight or with a few answers to questions from the people here.
What was also very helpful to me in my studies were Ray's audio and video teachings that he did; http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/board,13.0.html
To see and hear in what manner and how he was teaching will show you something as well.
And here is a list of Ray's emails where specific questions were answered: http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,3108.0.html
Dennis Vogel:
Don't forget our YouTube channel.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJSqb5uxlQ0FA7EQS6DpLOg
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