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1 Cor 15:51
Mike Gagne:
Hi Wittenberg, Heres what i have for both of your post..
--- Quote from: Wittenberg on March 31, 2016, 06:09:34 PM ---Kat, I obviously agree with those scripture. Yet I have never met someone that doesn't sin. I believe someday I won't sin anymore while having a physical body. I don't know what needs to happen that enables me to not sin after my earthly death. I always assumed that my sinful nature won't exist after resurrection, but I don't know if that's scriptural. If you have a reference on that, that would be great.
Thanks
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This might help you to understand what sin is doing in your life now if you died and your life is hid in Christ
This is what Paul said,
Rom 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? ( Judgement comes now onto life )
Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Rom 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Rom 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, ( not the man but the body ) that henceforth we should not serve sin.
Rom 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Rom 6:8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
Rom 6:9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
Rom 6:10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: ( same for you ) but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
Rom 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, ( but alive to God, not alive to die again ) but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Rom 6:12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
Rom 6:13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.( unto life not death )
Rom 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, ( death ) but under grace. ( which leads to life, not death )
I am now under grace and grace teaches me righteousness onto life. So any sin I do is not under the law which brings
death, for I died once. But if I sin now its under grace which brings righteousness onto life. Can you see that? Thank God for grace, I need grace, I need a lot of grace...
Romans 5:20-21 (KJV)
20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:( onto life ,not death )
21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, (thats the law ) even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life ( not death )by Jesus Christ our Lord.
When you died and you were hid in Christ, your sin is in judgement onto life!
--- Quote from: Wittenberg on March 31, 2016, 02:30:06 PM ---Michael, I've not been following this thread too closely, so I apologize if this is not on message or has been talked about already. 1 Cor 3:15 might be a reference to the 2nd death.
The day Ray died I'm assuming he sinned, he still had a sinful nature (like the rest of us). What happens to that sinful nature? Does it go away at the resurrection or does it need to be dealt with in some way? How do we become perfect?
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1Co 3:15 If anyone's work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.
Do you see that when you are in the fire it leads to life and not death....
Michael
Rene:
This is an example of why "No Teaching" is allowed on the forum. As a reminder, here is what Ray had to say about why this rule exist:
http://bible-truths.com/video/NoTeaching.mp4
Why No Teaching On This Forum (transcript)
You know, because sometimes these discussions get a little out of hand... basically we teach that you are not suppose to 'teach' on the forum. The main reason for that is, many times it turns into heresy... but people can't always distinguish what is or what isn't heresy. Therefore they give their opinions and if somebody reads it on our forum, they say 'well this is what they teach on Ray's forum.' Yea, but Ray doesn't teach that on Ray's forum... somebody else does and we don't always agree.
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