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Occultist symbols?
cheekie3:
Doug -
--- Quote ---Hi George,
When you said "you discover that there are natural cures - yet we are always given chemical treatments" it really struck home.
God allowed me to get to a point where things were very desperate with my health. He then lead me over a long period of time to natural cures. I could clearly see God's hand in leading me.
The medical profession to me is like the false religions of this world. About the only thing I would go to the doctor for is a broken bone or help to straighten out a spine out of wack (then I would seek out Alex). If I am wrong on this the worst that can happen is I die which will happen anyway. I'd rather die praying to God for help than go thru chemo any day.
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I do not want to upset anyone, but our health service is reliant on the drugs they give us: and sadly for me, it is not about our health, but about commerce and profit.
There are very, very poor people in places like India who queue up to see their natural herbalist to cure (and not treat) their ailments and diseases- and the specialist natural herbalist is skilled at detecting the root cause and provides herbal remedies that actually work.
I agree that, if possible, we should avoid putting chemicals in our bodies that are self healing if provided with the correct natural herbal (true) medicine.
I am very pleased that you sought and was cured by natural means.
May He Keep you and Bless you in His Marvelous Grace.
Kind Regards.
(natural) George.
rick:
--- Quote from: cheekie3 on May 17, 2016, 05:40:17 AM ---stello / largeli / All -
AS RAY OFTEN STATED IN HIS PAPERS & EMAIL RESPONSES - THIS IS A VERY BIG SUBJECT
I will try to put my understanding of this thread as plainly as I am able to do so without losing any meaning.
Here goes:
1. We know that Satan is the god of this World - which I have always understood to mean he is in charge of the ruling authorities of Mankind on the Earth - which includes powers and principalities, and evil and corrupt men and women at the top levels of power.
2. As such, these powers and principalities, and evil and corrupt men and women at the top levels of power, do not worship the One True God of The Holy Scriptures as they (willingly or by deception) serve the Devil - and Satan has his own symbols, etc, all over the Earth that can be seen in plain sight. These are numerous and not a few.
3. Think about it, if Satan owns all those that rule over us and lay claim to have the (rule of) law over us, rather than serve us as Jesus Christ and His Followers have done and still do - where are these rulers who claim dominion over all mankind.
4. We all have these wicked and evil rulers in our lives each and every day. Are their offerings and intentions not full in our faces each and every day. Is not Satan the god of lies and deception. Did Satan not want His very God Himself (Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ) to fall down and worship him. Did Jesus accept Satan's offer. No, Jesus told Satan what he should do with his disgusting offer.
5. Are these evil and wicked rulers at the top levels of power not in the governments, the media, in Hollywood, in schools, in the military, in the health service, and everywhere else. Do they not bombard us with their messages stating that we need to be governed by them (as there is no alternative), accept their media broadcasts and communications as fact (because there is no truth but theirs), be taught what to think and obey those in their authority (and not question anything), be told to serve our countries (without question), be told we need chemical treatments (as opposed to natural herbal and permanent cures), and have all their other garbage thrown at us continuously, which is difficult to avoid or disregard. Is this not how they lay their LORDSHIP claim over all of us - by stating that they have the power and the authority - so everyone must consent to obey them without questioning anything. Do they not rule behind closed doors claiming they are totally transparent; but in reality they rule by deception, stealth and dishonesty.
6. What is Our Heavenly Father's confirmed way of perfect and peaceful authority - is it not willing and obedient servitude to Him as He is Perfect and does not err or bare malice or is anything other than Love personified in All His Work on this Earth of ours; even His Works with evil in order for all of us to have the knowledge of good, and the knowledge of evil, firmly and permanently embedded in our hearts and minds (so that we all will, each in our own time of His choosing, select to do good). Has The Lord not confirmed that there is nothing that is hidden that will not be revealed. Is The Lord, and how He Reigns, not totally transparent (as opposed to ruling by deception, stealth and dishonesty).
7. If Jesus instructed us that those in authority LORD it over others, and we are not to be like them - is it possible that those who do LORD it over others are arrogant and self-righteous, who probably laugh at their deemed subjects, and they have all their graven images all over the Earth in symbols. Off course they do - and the whole Earth is full of their occult (which means hidden) symbols, and all of these are hidden in plain sight - and they probably gloat about it amongst themselves.
8. But these enemies of The Cross of Jesus Christ have no jurisdiction over His Called Out Called Out Elect - and their time is short - but they appear not be able to help themselves showing off their love of Satan and his wicked symbolism all over the Earth.
Oops, I appear to be rambling on a bit now - as I intended to write a very small post; which has taken on a life of its own and magnified - so I will stop - as I have put down a lot of interrelated themes which are extremely hard to grasp and fully understand.
My aim was to state that these symbols are all over the Earth, and have been for a very long time - but now they are much more in our faces, albeit hidden in plain sight - and anyone who thoroughly researches these Satanic and demonic devilish symbols, will be shocked to discover how they were meticulously planned and implemented (to be placed in plain sight) over the past centuries; all over the Earth, and in particular on their power bases on the Earth - including their financial stronghold that is 'The City of London' , their military powerhouse that is 'The District of Columbia' and their self-proclaimed religious authority that is the 'The Vatican' - which to me are their three (3) pillars of Satan's Babylonian Empire that rules on the Earth today.
I hope this helps a little, as we should not be afraid to discuss issues such as these on this Forum of The Lord - as His Love (in us) casteth out (all) Fear.
I hope I am not offended anyone on this Forum; or breached any of its rules.
Kind Regards.
George.
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Hi George,
All these things you say describe planet earth and the two seeds no doubt however all these politicians and media people did not fall out of the sky but come from American familys which is telling of today's America.
The problem is not out there but in US, all these things you speak of is what is going on inside of us and a great deception is to think the other guy is the problem.
We know the plan of God and because we know God's plan we understand why things must be like this and the more time we give credence to these things or learning about the occult is less time learning about God.
However don't you think the more we learn about God the more we will understand the world , life and ourselves ?
If we who come to hate these things we see and know that are evil and the wickedness in the world could change it then we would of thwarted the plan of God which no man can do.
God bless.
Kat:
--- Quote from: cheekie3 on May 21, 2016, 08:13:02 AM ---
I understand that He has started a great awakening with a few in all Sovereign Countries on The Earth; like a trickle that gets bigger and bigger - or as we hold up the 'self proclaimed elite' and they cannot survive as 'lords over all' without us, the more He awakens the greater the crumbling down will be - great will the fall of Babylon be.
I personally believe that the greatest lie ever told is "TEIAFP"; and this can be proved by each of us walking on the Earth today.
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Hi George, this specific phrase caught my attention. It sounds like what I have heard that some teach... that the resurrection has already come, that it's a spiritual awakening starting with Christ, and His few chosen at that time and will continue on until the whole world will be one with God. I believe it has reincarnation instead of the resurrection of the dead as the means of eventually getting everybody perfected.
That is not what Ray taught, nor what we support here on the forum. Now that may not be what you meant, but it did sound quite similar to it, and I know a brother/friend who left the forum to follow this line of reasoning, therefore my concern.
But I just wanted to make it clear to anybody reading here that we do not believe that, nor will we allow it to be taught here. If that was not what you meant, then good, just couldn't let it go.
Mercy, peace and love
Kat
Dennis Vogel:
--- Quote from: cheekie3 on May 21, 2016, 08:13:02 AM ---largeli -
--- Quote ---George
Wow. You have just described with amazing accuracy what it's been like to walk through this over the past several years. Praise God. It is so refreshing and confirming to know that someone else has walked the same path and had the same thoughts, felt the same feelings, and asked the same questions toward God about this. Literally I read your post and it's like I'm reading my own mental diary from the recent past.. Gods plan is perfect.
Thank you for posting this.
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I sensed the same in your words - hence my very lengthy response.
I understand that He has started a great awakening with a few in all Sovereign Countries on The Earth; like a trickle that gets bigger and bigger - or as we hold up the 'self proclaimed elite' and they cannot survive as 'lords over all' without us, the more He awakens the greater the crumbling down will be - great will the fall of Babylon be.
I personally believe that the greatest lie ever told is "TEIAFP"; and this can be proved by each of us walking on the Earth today.
You (and all of us) are not a number, nor alone, nor helpless - as we are on His Winning Team of Called Out Called Out (Wide Awake) Ones - we are (each of us) His Precious and unique Gems (and Priceless).
Kind Regards.
(Was asleep and now I am wide awake - and I keep knocking on His door, asking, seeking, and wrestling with Him for specific guidance on how to deal with all that He brings my way in my own personal daily journey He Planned from the very beginning) Humble & Humbly George.
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What is "TEIAFP"?
cheekie3:
Rick -
--- Quote ---However don't you think the more we learn about God the more we will understand the world , life and ourselves ?
If we who come to hate these things we see and know that are evil and the wickedness in the world could change it then we would of thwarted the plan of God which no man can do.
God bless.
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I obviously did not make clear that I do not expect the evil and wickedness to change (in this age of ours) - and like you, since He Called me Out, my heart's desire is to Know Him and Obey His Commandments, in order that I may please Him in all that I desire, think, say and do - and I value no ones opinion, especially my own - as I understand, it is all about His Truth, and never, ever, about our / my opinion(s). Ultimately, He is engraving in our hearts and minds His Fruit - which are His Characteristics - (i.e. the nine fold Fruit of His (Holy) Spirit), but each of us in His Time of His choosing).
I believe that evil men and women, or those that do extreme wickedness to others, are influenced by His adversary (that He created) , namely Satan, the Devil, who was a murderer and a liar from the beginning - and Satan has a kingdom that is not divided (as Jesus Himself confirmed) and Satan's kingdom includes demons, as well as wicked men and women (of which some pretend to be His Church doing His work on the Earth; but not all of Satan's kingdom is in the church, as there are many, many, who follow him who are outside the church), and these wicked men and women do not worship the One True God Almighty.
So yes, the Law of Sin and Death is in each of us, but there are Powers and Principalities in the heavenlies (who are not men and women) - who try to make men and women do these wicked and evil things.
The point I was trying to make was that these symbols are everywhere in plain sight - and it is only during the past several months I have seen this clearly (like I have awakened from a deep sleep, or come out of a heavy mist)- as I did not give it much thought until recently - when I saw the root cause of a significant aspect, and how this controls and enslaves each and every one of us in our daily lives.
I am simply stating that since I have seen the depth of this deception, I am daily seeking His Face, asking Him to show me what He wants me to do about it - and how I can come to terms with this Truth - as once this is known, it cannot be unknown.
I am sorry I did not make this clear - as we know that He prepares the steps that we must all walk in, and always has done - and we must all walk in these steps He has prepared for us (whether we do Good or we do Evil).
I hate no one at all - as He has Commanded us to forgive everyone all things lest we be not forgiven our own sins by Him - and that we conquer Evil not by doing Evil ourselves, but by doing Good - and we all know that Good only comes from The One True God Almighty.
I am sorry I did not make this clear - and I hope this further clarification explains this point a little better.
Kind Regards.
Faithfully and Sincerely, George.
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