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rick:
--- Quote from: Michael G on March 30, 2016, 05:49:36 PM ---Hi Miranda,
If God before you, who can be against you?
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I often wondered about the translation of that scripture because it ask who can be against you ? well we know the devil and his minions are against us for starters.
My spiritual common sense tells me it is a mistranslation which probably should read as if God is for us who can succeed against us, just my opinion.
God bless.
Kat:
--- Quote from: Miranda_78 on March 30, 2016, 05:43:05 PM ---Thanks to all the responses. But as i mentioned to Dennis, i was meaning forcefully. Oftentimes phychics tell people things without their permission as my uncle expirienced one time, as well my sister. So i was meaning a witch casting a ritual spell on you because she does not like you.
Or someone putting out curses purposfully.
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James 4:7 Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you.
1Peter 5:6 Therefore humble yourselves under the mighty hand of God, that He may exalt you in due time,
v. 7 casting all your care upon Him, for He cares for you.
v. 8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.
v. 9 Resist him, steadfast in the faith, knowing that the same sufferings are experienced by your brotherhood in the world.
Here are a few emails on this.
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php?topic=6962.0 -------
my name is Sara, i was born into a traditional christian family in india. as children, we were taught that demons, generational curses, and such things were believed only by hindus and other 'pagans'. also, jesus conquered the devil, so there was no more threat from that years later, my husband and both children suffered from terrible illnesses, especially my daughter and doctors said there was no hope, no cure. all we could do was pray...
we were in serious financial difficulty as well, as my husband and i were unemployed then.
about that time, i came across Derek Prince's book on Blessings and Curses .... it was a shock to read that demons and curses were true since then, i've prayed more & more with renewed faith. my husband suddenly got a very good job and God healed my daughter in such a way that doctors could find no traces of her former disease i believe that God is the author of everything, & i now pray all the time (w hile cooking or washing up, etc).... and i continue asking God to protect me & my family from Satan and from demons.
am i becoming enslaved to this notion? if so, how do i overcome it? please help
Dear Sara: Jesus said that "the TRUTH shall set your FREE" (John 8:32). What is the truth concerning this matter? Here is the Truth:
Rom 8:1 There is therefore now NO CONDEMNATION to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
There are NO curses, NO demons, NO adverse sentences from God upon those who are "IN Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the SPIRIT."
http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,3013.0.html --------
many folk believe a christian still need to be delivered of some things like curses,ill lock,hereditary curses e.t.c pls i need more insights about this topic.
thanks
oluwallogbon
Dear Oluwallogbon:
No, of course not. This is all superstitious nonsense. You are not under any generational curses, or back luck or any such thing.
"There is therefore NOW [at this time] NO CONDEEMNATION to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh [the threat of generalizational curses and such fleshly nonsense], but after the Spirit" (Rom. 8:1).
Heb 4:16--" Let us therefore come BOLDLY unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need. "
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,4060.0.html -------
Dear Susan: The only reason for a brother to discontinue fellowship with another is gross SIN. There could take many forms: immorality, teaching heresy, etc.
Your pastor has no power to "curse you," nor is there a Scripture to justify cursing another.
God be with you,
Ray
Mike Gagne:
Rick ,
--- Quote from: Rick on March 30, 2016, 06:38:34 PM ---
--- Quote from: Michael G on March 30, 2016, 05:49:36 PM ---Hi Miranda,
If God before you, who can be against you?
--- End quote ---
I often wondered about the translation of that scripture because it ask who can be against you ? well we know the devil and his minions are against us for starters.
My spiritual common sense tells me it is a mistranslation which probably should read as if God is for us who can succeed against us, just my opinion.
God bless.
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even your translation says the same thing
KJ : If God be for you, who can be against you?
your translation : if God is for us who can succeed against us,
Michael
Mike Gagne:
The sovereign God
For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Job 2:10 But he said unto her, Thou speakest as one of the foolish women speaketh. What? shall we receive good at the hand of God, and shall we not receive evil?
Mat 6:34 Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.
Isa 54:16 Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy.
1Co 5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
The sovereign God said
Job 1:8 And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?
And satan said
Job 1:11 But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.
And the sovereign God said
Job 1:12 And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath isin thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.
Satan says again
Job 2:4-6 (KJV)
4 And Satan answered the LORD, and said, Skin for skin, yea, all that a man hath will he give for his life.
5 But put forth thine hand now, and touch his bone and his flesh, and he will curse thee to thy face.
And the sovereign God said
6 And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, he is in thine hand; but save his life
Now if God before you who can be against you? The destruction of the flesh ( all the idols of the heart, your carnality ) is for you, it has to happen!
Should we forget that God is sovereign, and Jesus rules in the kingdom of men!
Michael
rick:
--- Quote from: Michael G on March 30, 2016, 06:53:24 PM ---Rick ,
--- Quote from: Rick on March 30, 2016, 06:38:34 PM ---
--- Quote from: Michael G on March 30, 2016, 05:49:36 PM ---Hi Miranda,
If God before you, who can be against you?
--- End quote ---
I often wondered about the translation of that scripture because it ask who can be against you ? well we know the devil and his minions are against us for starters.
My spiritual common sense tells me it is a mistranslation which probably should read as if God is for us who can succeed against us, just my opinion.
God bless.
--- End quote ---
even your translation says the same thing
KJ : If God be for you, who can be against you?
your translation : if God is for us who can succeed against us,
Michael
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Hi Michael,
I agree to disagree because if God is for me then does that mean Satan won't be against me? However if God is for me which to me means if God wants anyone to accomplish something , no one can stop that one.
God bless.
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