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Jeff:

--- Quote from: Dennis Vogel on April 24, 2016, 03:12:44 PM ---
--- Quote ---I just went through a near death experience
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About this time last year I was minutes away from being dead. The hospital overdosed me on morphine. My blood pressure was down to 48 over 23 and I was on my way out until they gave me the antidote and regained consciousness.

In that one minute when I could not open my eyes but I could hear people talking to me while someone was pumping my chest and my nurse was shaking me asking me to wake up was as peaceful as I've ever been in my life. No pain, almost no thoughts. Just peace.

Since then I have no problem with being dead. But the dying process could scare me. I don't think I could endure what Ray went through the last year of his life. Especially the last week.

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Was just thinking about the state of the world (shouldn't read the news) and headed here to do some reflecting.  First thing I read was your account, Dennis.  I've never had a near death experience that I know of. For me it's near life experiences.  Honestly, death would be a welcome release.  Selfish, lacks faith, and weak, I know, but it's the truth.  I hate this existence more every day.

Lately, knowing what I know about God (or think I do), it almost seems more difficult to believe he's real.  That's a big contradiction, but that's part of the struggle.  So much suffering, and pain, and the world is so completely lost, and desperately in need of healing. In my ignorance, to believe that God could end it all, and doesn't, means I'm incapable of understanding, and I just don't have the faith to hold on indefinitely.

Ray wrote that if he didn't think God was listening, he would stop praying.  That's faith.  Much more than I can find.  Death is easy.

rick:
Hi Jeff,

Death is easier in that the dead know nothing but all of us must go through the lake of fire either here and now or there and then.

There is no escaping what God intended for us to go throhgh.

What I concluded was death is not forever, there is a resurrection . One cannot elude their troublesome life forever in the grave, better to go through it now .

The only difference is those who go through the lake of fire now will come up in the first resurrection but what a difference , reigning with Christ will be such an honour that what we suffer now cannot be compared to what we shall receive from Christ.

But we know the time will come that God will wipe away every tear and death will be no more , so I say live and learn the things of God now.

All the pain and suffering one goes through is not forever , it will come to an end, God promises us.

God bless

cheekie3:
Job -

There are a lot of gemstones in the Book of Job about the ways of Our Almighty Heavenly Father.

Our Heavenly Father (the Father of All his creation including mankind, angelkind and demonkind) desires to make us in His Image. Death will be swallowed up. He will complete what He started and what He desires is to have many sons and daughters IN HIS IMAGE.

Kind Regards.

Dead in the flesh; yet alive in His Spirit - George

rick:
I learned from Ray that the only thing we will know is life, if one died today and the resurrection did not take place for five hundred years you would never feel that time in the grave.

As soon as one closed their eyes in this age they will be open in the next age because we don't feel the time because the dead know nothing.

There is no escape in  the grave , the only thing we will know is life, we will experience dying but not death itself.

I hope that makes sense.

God bless.

Jeff:

--- Quote from: Rick on May 02, 2016, 05:44:29 AM ---Hi Jeff,

Death is easier in that the dead know nothing but all of us must go through the lake of fire either here and now or there and then.

There is no escaping what God intended for us to go throhgh.

What I concluded was death is not forever, there is a resurrection . One cannot elude their troublesome life forever in the grave, better to go through it now .

The only difference is those who go through the lake of fire now will come up in the first resurrection but what a difference , reigning with Christ will be such an honour that what we suffer now cannot be compared to what we shall receive from Christ.

But we know the time will come that God will wipe away every tear and death will be no more , so I say live and learn the things of God now.

All the pain and suffering one goes through is not forever , it will come to an end, God promises us.

God bless

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This just completely blew me away. 

All I've ever considered was - sleep - wake - eternity. 

It never once occurred to me that if I die in this state, I'm going to have to wake up to, and finish, what I was trying to escape. 

And it wouldn't even be as though I had this long, peaceful rest.  It would be - dead >BOOM< alive - as though not a second had passed.

Unbelievable.  Just so-much-ignorance in one person.

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