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All will give account.
rick:
I'm not sure if that is a literal or a figurative statement of scripture? If it's a figurative statement then I could tie it into the scripture which tells us that when His judgements are in the earth then the inhabitants of the earth shall learn righteousness.
Which to me then the account would mean more of a learning process rather than an actual confession of guilt and wrong doing or simply put not living a righteous life in Christ.
But if it's a literally statement then what could one possibly say ?
God bless.
Kat:
Hi Rick, well though God takes responsibility for making us with inherit weaknesses, every single individual will be held accountable/liable for the choices we make. I do feel that somehow as those in the world are resurrected from the dead, they will actual stand before God and receive condemnation and 'sentenced' to physical life again (that will be their lake of fire). Upon repentance they will be forgiven, but I think they must make recompense through the fire of judgment. I believe the accountability to be a process, now maybe there will be a certain degree of confessions, but I would think firstly the process is to come to be made aware of one sin and then they must be brought to repentance through retribution.
Deu 32:35 Vengeance is Mine, and recompense; Their foot shall slip in due time; For the day of their calamity is at hand, And the things to come hasten upon them.'
I believe there are so many 'sins' that are committed with actual denial of wrong doing... one example is throughout history the strong people have descended upon the weaker nations and conquered them. They killed any that resisted and took many captive that became their slaves... the world did not view this as wrong. These slaves became their property and was thought of as little more than beasts of burden, and treated much like animals... the world did not view that as wrong. Many slaves have suffered incredibly at the hands of their 'master,' many were killed with no regret. And so many have committed other kinds of awful sins in the name of a twisted sense of justice, with no remorse. And many terrible sins are committed and the perpetrated never even found out and known, much less penalized. People cannot give account or own up to acts of sin they are not aware of as sin, some sins are quite obvious, but others are not, some have religions totally contrary to Christians... they will have to come to realize many truths first.
1Cor 4:5 So you should not pass judgment on anyone before the right time comes. Final judgment must wait until the Lord comes; He will bring to light the dark secrets and expose the hidden purposes of people's minds. And then all will receive from God the praise they deserve. (GNB)
2Cor 5:10 For all of us must appear before the judgment seat of the Messiah, so that each of us may receive what he deserves for what he has done in his body, whether good or worthless. (ISV)
Part of the process of giving account after being made aware of ones sins, would need to be their held liable, "receive what he deserves." So thinking of a slave that was brutally killed by their 'owner,' what could be more just than turning that around and now the master is the salve and the slave the master, "the first will be last, and the last first." Of course it would not be the same for the slave as it is in this age, but God's justice is not the same as man's, He would not be seeking to physically harm/injure as man does, but the torment of that reverse situation would be quite real and bring humility. Remember the parable of Lazarus and the rich man and how Jesus said how tormented the rich man was in his fiery judgment. There was a lifetime of learning evil for many people and I guess it will take quite some time for them to learn to live in righteousness... but there will be a whole age to do so.
So I guess I'm saying that I think accountability is much more than just speaking a confession, it would involve many steps, probably over many years at least for some in being brought to righteousness. Anyway that's just my thoughts.
Matt 25:41 "Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting (eonian) fire prepared for the devil and his angels G32 (aggelos - a messenger; especially an “angel”; by implication a pastor: - angel, messenger.):
Matt 25:46 And these will go away into everlasting (eonian) punishment, but the righteous into eternal (eonian) life."
mercy, peace and love
Kat
indianabob:
Hi Kat,
Well said and helpful.
God will see that everything is done in an orderly fashion and for the betterment of all persons.
I-Bob
rick:
Hi Kat,
What is on my mind stems from those things I've learned here. I understand in part the plan of God which is making children , a family for Himself.
It's true God made us spiritually weak for the intended purpose of giving us and experience of good and evil as well as to humble us by.
I know Ray also mentioned that God cannot impart virtue to us and that it must be learned . I know God says vengeance is His but understanding His plan even though it is impart and coming to the conclusion that Gods ways are not our ways and that we should not be leaning towards our understanding and knowing God is love I find it difficult to accept this vengeance which God referred to is anything as we humans understand revenge.
We all come from different backgrounds and parents but I would think of the best parents on earth and then multiply that by trillions and still somehow fall short of God parenting His children.
In order for God to achieve His plan He needed to create His creation in vanity then setting the circumstances that would bring about the evil He created in order for all to experience good and evil and when one experienced evil it can be quite humbling.
I know right from wrong but I also believe there are things we cannot believe are wrong because those things are so subtle.
God says we will give account but whatever God asked me would have to go back to God no matter how I view it because God is the cause of all things . I know one day God will vindicate His name in all the earth and all will understand why so much pain and wickedness had to be .
Also if it is a verbal account one should think if we go back in time one trillion seconds ago we would end up in b.c . There are six billion people alive today plus all those who came and departed before us . If each one spent and hour giving account then the judgement would span over trillions of years.
I just think the scripture is figurative rather than literal but then again what do I know , a lowly servant am I.
God bless us all.
octoberose:
"Also if it is a verbal account one should think if we go back in time one trillion seconds ago we would end up in b.c . There are six billion people alive today plus all those who came and departed before us . If each one spent and hour giving account then the judgement would span over trillions of years. "
I suppose I imagine that God will manipulate time, which only exists because He made it, to make things progress in any 'timetable' of His choosing.
I've always liked the verse you began with. Knowing that I am called to account for my actions and thoughts is helpful in keeping me accountable in my own heart for what I do and say. No one gets a "get out of jail pass" on this. And don't we want it this way? Don't we want to begin a new life in Christ without anything in the way, any sin dragging us down, any fear left in our hearts? Of course I don't know what this is going to look like and how God will bring it all about- I just know I derive some comfort and instruction from it.
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