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lareli:
Ray was a teacher right?

Was he the only one? I would think not so where are the others? Where are the prophets etc?

John from Kentucky:

Jesus said, "And do not be called teachers; for One is your Teacher, the Christ."  Mat 23:10 NKJV

Dennis Vogel:

--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on July 13, 2016, 08:28:43 PM ---
Jesus said, "And do not be called teachers; for One is your Teacher, the Christ."  Mat 23:10 NKJV

--- End quote ---

Other translations prefer to use master, preceptor, leader, and director in Mat 23:10. Teacher is "figuratively."

John, what title would you use for Ray?

(ASV)  Neither be ye called masters: for one is your master, even the Christ.

(CLV)  Nor yet may you be called preceptors, for One is your Preceptor, the Christ."

(Diaglott-NT)  Neither be ye called leaders; one for of you is the leader, the Anointed.

(KJV)  Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.

(Rotherham)  Neither be called leaders, for, your leader, is one, the Christ;

(YLT)  nor may ye be called directors, for one is your director--the Christ.

καθηγητής
kathēgētēs
kath-ayg-ay-tace'
From a compound of G2596 and G2233; a guide, that is, (figuratively) a teacher: - master.

Kat:

--- Quote from: largeli on July 13, 2016, 05:19:08 PM ---Ray was a teacher right?

Was he the only one? I would think not so where are the others? Where are the prophets etc?
--- End quote ---

I believe that the prophets were used at a certain time in history for a certain purpose and obviously that is not needed at this time. But there certainly are other positions that are necessary for the body as God see fit to provide.

Eph 4:10  He who descended is also the One who ascended far above all the heavens, that He might fill all things.) 11  And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, 12  for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, 13  till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ;

Ray was very needful at this time and he was used to instruct us in so many truths and how we should use the Word of God to study. Now Ray was well prepared for the position that he had as a teacher and that seems to be a prerequisite of who God uses, because there is certainly "a stricter judgment" (James 3:1) for those that become teachers.

But we are not to sit back and only seek to be spoon fed the milk of the word either, as Paul admonished brethren that they should "be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth" (2Tim 2:15), just as Ray did.

Heb 5:12  For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the first principles of the oracles of God; and you have come to need milk and not solid food.
v. 13  For everyone who partakes only of milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe.
v. 14  But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, that is, those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

I think the use of this forum is a very productive way for believers to come together and discuss these truths. This type of assembling together is a unique way to fellowship in the history of God's people... we are very blessed as God provides as He see fit.

mercy, peace and love
Kat

jingle52:
We should all thank our Heavenly Father and our Christ for using Ray as an instrument for teaching those of us who have been drawn here in one way or another to learn the Truths of His Word. Where would we be without this wonderful new-found and truthful knowledge? We would still be floundering in the church and listening to our pastors telling us half-truths and lies and thinking that everything was normal...
God our Father through Christ Jesus does work in mysterious ways, our mindsets have been changed, we seek to learn more and more of His Word, we seek to understand even more through the questions and discussions on the forum which are lively and interesting and very informative. We seek to better understand how to manage our hard trials given to us to teach us patience and to humble us, to strengthen our faith and trust in God, where do you learn this in the church?
My whole family are staunch church goers and all they think about is praying for prosperity and safety etc. They go to parties and drink beer and wine like there's no tomorrow and still they think it is normal, but didn't they just go to church the other day?  ???
With this new mindset that we have now, we question ourselves if we are doing the right thing, are we pleasing God our Father, are we living a godly life, we do have our weaknesses which leads us to repent and cry out to God for His mercy 
I know I have changed since being drawn to the teachings of Ray, yes I would call him a teacher as he, through God's spirit taught us the correct way of reading the Bible (The twelve God -given truths to understanding his Word) and countless more... and truthfully speaking, I personally have a long ways to go...
Ray was a physical man teaching in this physical world how to learn and apply the spiritual applications of the Word, he wasn't perfect, but man oh man, did he explain things which were nebulous to us...
Christ Jesus was born as a physical man and was given His Father's spirit without measure, teaching parables so that only those with ears to hear could understand them (healing and resurrecting the dead as well)
So to reiterate from my perspective, Ray was a teacher!
Sorry if I'm long winded and off course here, but Ray taught me/us a lot

Jingle

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