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Giving thanks for all things?
octoberose:
Our greatest example in all things is Christ Himself. So, my question is, when did Jesus Thank God for the death he was about to suffer? He submitted himself to his Father for sure- but did He say anything remotely like, " thank you Father for choosing me to bear the sin of the world so I can suffer and die a hideous death. Gee, I'm just so blessed." Nope , i just dont recall that. The only thing He wanted less than dying on that cross was to not fulfill the will of God and leave us all without a sacrificial lamb. At least that is how I see it.
John from Kentucky:
--- Quote from: Fester on September 10, 2016, 01:13:41 AM ---This is confusing and personal to me because I don't know how to 'give thanks in all things'. For example, how do I 'thank Him' for taking away Ray when he had so much more to teach us? The pain he experienced was part of the death process He gave him. So I don't really buy into thanking Him for removing Ray from this pain. Maybe if all of you can tell me how you personally thank God for Ray's death and his exit from your life I will develop a better understanding and learn how to be thankful for it too. Thanks!
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Death is not a big deal. Jesus taught us death is sleep. But who believes Jesus? A basic teaching of the Scriptures is the resurrection of the dead. As easy as we wake from sleep, just as easily God wakes us from death.
Also, Ray did not have more to teach us. No human is important. God is all important. God teaches us and gives us life. All thanks and glory goes to the Great God.
Kat:
--- Quote from: octoberose on September 10, 2016, 02:27:01 AM ---Our greatest example in all things is Christ Himself. So, my question is, when did Jesus Thank God for the death he was about to suffer? He submitted himself to his Father for sure- but did He say anything remotely like, " thank you Father for choosing me to bear the sin of the world so I can suffer and die a hideous death. Gee, I'm just so blessed." Nope , i just dont recall that. The only thing He wanted less than dying on that cross was to not fulfill the will of God and leave us all without a sacrificial lamb. At least that is how I see it.
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Matt 26:27 Then He took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you.
V. 28 For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Mark 14:23 Then He took the cup, and when He had given thanks He gave it to them, and they all drank from it.
V. 24 And He said to them, "This is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many
This life in the flesh is a temporary thing, not something we should cling to beyond the purpose God has destined us all for. Jesus was here to fulfill a purpose, which He did... and Ray obviously fulfilled his purpose as well, God would not have taken him before his time was up. We all will live the exact length of time God has designated for us, not one day more or less.
Our hope is beyond this physical existence, we are looking to the kingdom, the spirit life in and with Christ. Like Paul was saying we remain here and do what we need to do, but our real desire is to be with Christ in His kingdom.
2Cor 5:1 For we know that if our earthly house, this tent, is destroyed, we have a building from God, a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.
V. 2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed with our habitation which is from heaven,
V. 3 if indeed, having been clothed, we shall not be found naked.
V. 4 For we who are in this tent groan, being burdened, not because we want to be unclothed, but further clothed, that mortality may be swallowed up by life.
V. 5 Now He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who also has given us the Spirit as a guarantee.
V. 6 So we are always confident, knowing that while we are at home in the body we are absent from the Lord.
Mercy, peace and love
Kat
Fester:
--- Quote from: Fester on September 10, 2016, 01:13:41 AM ---This is confusing and personal to me because I don't know how to 'give thanks in all things'. For example, how do I 'thank Him' for taking away Ray when he had so much more to teach us? The pain he experienced was part of the death process He gave him. So I don't really buy into thanking Him for removing Ray from this pain. Maybe if all of you can tell me how you personally thank God for Ray's death and his exit from your life I will develop a better understanding and learn how to be thankful for it too. Thanks!
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Okay it is probably me that is messed up and emotional over events like this. This is a major struggle for me and maybe for others too. Maybe nobody wants to share their handling of Ray's death and being thankful for it. Maybe none of you are thankful for it, yet putting on a good front. Maybe I don't deserve a direct answer either as from time to time, you have been here for a long time know, I can be at times a bit of a dic. I can accept that, but I believe if I can gain understanding and thankfulness for Ray's death it will greatly help me in dealing with other life crises events. If you wish to help me out then thanks and if not well I understand. I won't push anymore!
Dave in Tenn:
Fester, I can't pinpoint a time when I "gave thanks" for Ray's death during the event itself and the aftermath. But then, I don't say "thank you" that much more than I say "Why did you let that happen?"--which isn't much anymore. I'd rather BE thankful, than say THANKS. BEING thankful takes more time. Maybe that's where you are.
I AM thankful that Ray isn't suffering. And I AM thankful that I can believe what Kat shared. Hasn't always been that way.
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