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MY NIECES WEDDING!?
lareli:
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--- Quote from: largeli on August 30, 2016, 01:41:26 PM ---I'd go. Doesn't mean you're sanctioning the lifestyle. Doesn't mean you approve. Just means you love your niece. No one needs your approval anyway. They're getting married regardless.
I'd go to a 4th of July BBQ. Doesn't mean I approve of war or people killing and being killed. Doesn't mean I 'support the troops'. It might 'look' like I do but what do I care what it 'looks' like to others.
I stand when the National Anthem is played at my kids pee-wee football games. Doesn't mean I support the religion of nationalism. I'm sure it 'looks' like I do but what do I care what the crowd thinks.
Like Paul said.. 'I know you're going to judge me but it means very little to me to be judged by you, or any man for that matter... I don't even judge myself. I have one judge.' (Paraphrased)
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This is a bad analogy. Regardless of the past and present sins of the USA, you are not attending events that celebrate her sins. You are attending events to eat, spend time with family, and watch football. Eating ribs and watching pee wee football are not vile affections (Rom. 1:26).
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Really? Veterans Day, 4th of July, Memorial Day.... Are you saying these are not days set aside for the honoring and celebration of those who have fought, killed and/or have been killed in war?
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I do feel you are grasping at straws to justify behavior that is condemned. Eating barbeque on the sand when you have time off from work (national holidays) does not equate to participating in an event where a sin condemned in scripture is being embraced and celebrated. The word of God does not condemn attending the beach on any day or enjoying good food with friends and family. It does however condemn homosexuality, murder, etc...
Sure, There maybe events on national holidays to celebrate the life and accomplishments of military veterans which involves killing and murder but I personally don't attend those events. If i'm at the beach with my wife and daughter having a good time, enjoying the sun, and eating good food with friends, and it happens to be the 4th of july (or the middle of winter), thats all it is, being at the beach. I'm not celebrating anyones anything or participating in any sinful act.
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You probably don't see nationalism as a religion.
I'm not talking about eating BBQ on the sand when everyone has the day off. I'm talking about a BBQ on the 4th of July to celebrate the 4th of July... Little flags everywhere, red white and blue table cloths and napkins. Sparklers. I'm talking about attending a Parade in honor of 4th of July. I'm talking about standing and facing the flag during the national anthem. Most may swell with sinful pride as the music plays but I do not.
Like Extol said, you can be there for a different reason than everyone else. I think that's a spot on analogy to attending a gay wedding.
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: largeli on August 30, 2016, 04:22:11 PM ---
--- Quote from: lilitalienboi16 on August 30, 2016, 04:09:13 PM ---
--- Quote from: largeli on August 30, 2016, 02:30:02 PM ---
--- Quote from: Extol on August 30, 2016, 02:11:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: largeli on August 30, 2016, 01:41:26 PM ---I'd go. Doesn't mean you're sanctioning the lifestyle. Doesn't mean you approve. Just means you love your niece. No one needs your approval anyway. They're getting married regardless.
I'd go to a 4th of July BBQ. Doesn't mean I approve of war or people killing and being killed. Doesn't mean I 'support the troops'. It might 'look' like I do but what do I care what it 'looks' like to others.
I stand when the National Anthem is played at my kids pee-wee football games. Doesn't mean I support the religion of nationalism. I'm sure it 'looks' like I do but what do I care what the crowd thinks.
Like Paul said.. 'I know you're going to judge me but it means very little to me to be judged by you, or any man for that matter... I don't even judge myself. I have one judge.' (Paraphrased)
--- End quote ---
This is a bad analogy. Regardless of the past and present sins of the USA, you are not attending events that celebrate her sins. You are attending events to eat, spend time with family, and watch football. Eating ribs and watching pee wee football are not vile affections (Rom. 1:26).
--- End quote ---
Really? Veterans Day, 4th of July, Memorial Day.... Are you saying these are not days set aside for the honoring and celebration of those who have fought, killed and/or have been killed in war?
--- End quote ---
I do feel you are grasping at straws to justify behavior that is condemned. Eating barbeque on the sand when you have time off from work (national holidays) does not equate to participating in an event where a sin condemned in scripture is being embraced and celebrated. The word of God does not condemn attending the beach on any day or enjoying good food with friends and family. It does however condemn homosexuality, murder, etc...
Sure, There maybe events on national holidays to celebrate the life and accomplishments of military veterans which involves killing and murder but I personally don't attend those events. If i'm at the beach with my wife and daughter having a good time, enjoying the sun, and eating good food with friends, and it happens to be the 4th of july (or the middle of winter), thats all it is, being at the beach. I'm not celebrating anyones anything or participating in any sinful act.
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You probably don't see nationalism as a religion.
I'm not talking about eating BBQ on the sand when everyone has the day off. I'm talking about a BBQ on the 4th of July to celebrate the 4th of July... Little flags everywhere, red white and blue table cloths and napkins. Sparklers. I'm talking about attending a Parade in honor of 4th of July. I'm talking about standing and facing the flag during the national anthem. Most may swell with sinful pride as the music plays but I do not.
Like Extol said, you can be there for a different reason than everyone else. I think that's a spot on analogy to attending a gay wedding.
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I didn't understand Jesse to mean that. m
Jesse was saying that not everyone at the beach is there to celebrate war and violence, carnal men and national pride. Beaches, good food, etc... are not reserved for celebrating sinful behavior.
Attending a wedding however is reserved for celebrating the union of two people whose wedding it is. Being there places you there for very specific reasons of which are included to show your support for the couple and participate in the festivities celebrating their union. The reason matters.
You can be at the beach or any public event for that matter for a million reasons including just taking a stroll. You can't really be at a private event, a wedding, for more than one though. You're there for the couple to support them. In the case of gay marriage, to support that which God condemns.
Kat:
Here's a thought largeli, if a gay couple invited you to their home to have dinner with them, do you think that would be the same thing as attending their wedding ceremony? Of course not, IMO it is not the same thing at all... where as the ceremony is to celebrate the joining of the couple (in the case being discussed) in a biblical condemned relationship. Dinner well it's eating a meal and we have to learn to differentiate what one represents from the other. Christ ate with sinners (Mark 2:15), yet we know He would never do anything that appeared to condone their sins.
I can show I care for and love a person in many ways, but I would not want to do something that would appear that I am in agreement with or condoning a homosexual relationship and those in attendance would have to think you were. I believe it is important for a believer to begin to live the life of obedience and that certainly includes what others see in us.
Matt 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven.
1Peter 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts, and always be ready to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in you, with meekness and fear;
v. 16 having a good conscience, that when they defame you as evildoers, those who revile your good conduct in Christ may be ashamed.
v. 17 For it is better, if it is the will of God, to suffer for doing good than for doing evil.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
acomplishedartis:
And HERE the why I don't go to church...
Not that I am anyone important, but at least for me; Just my presence would be advertising for them and for free--Ha
Plus, I don't like the rituals that they perform there.
ps. (once in a long while, I go to a church where no body knows me, just to check out if there is something new, like some new techniques of manpulation, or just to remember what kind of such dark places I was saved from)
Dennis Vogel:
Just showing up makes you part of the wedding.
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