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Nelson Boils:
Genesis 5:1 CLV "This is the scroll of the genealogical annals of Adam:In the day the Elohim creatED Adam,in the likeness of the Elohim He MADE him."

We have learned that God is creatING man in His image. Should the above verse read in past tense?

"Elohim creatED Adam,in the likeness of the Elohim he MADE him"

If this verse is correctly written:How is Adam,now,like God?


lilitalienboi16:

--- Quote from: Job on September 25, 2016, 03:34:20 PM ---Genesis 5:1 CLV "This is the scroll of the genealogical annals of Adam:In the day the Elohim creatED Adam,in the likeness of the Elohim He MADE him."

We have learned that God is creatING man in His image. Should the above verse read in past tense?

"Elohim creatED Adam,in the likeness of the Elohim he MADE him"

If this verse is correctly written:How is Adam,now,like God?

--- End quote ---

This subject comes up often. I believe it was shown that the hebrew has no past tense, only a progressive present tense. So all the verbs should be in the, what is known as, 'ariost' tense, I.E. 'creatING' in english.

But you don't need to resort merely to Genesis to see that God is creatING humanity in His image.

1 John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

Romans 8:29
For those God foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brothers.

 Corinthians 3:17-18
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

There are many verses which show salvation is a process where the end result is to conform humanity after His spiritual image.

To answer your question, 'how is adam now like God?'

Adam and all humanity, which paul referred to as the God race, the race/kin/children of God (See Acts), bear God's physical form/shape/image. Paul furthermore calls generic carnal God hating man the image and glory of God (1 Cor 11:7). He could only say that if he was referring to God's appearance rather than moral spiritual image . We look human because He looks human. Every vision of God, from the old testament to the new, has been that of a man and Jesus who we know is God was born into the flesh as a human and is still refered to as a man after His death and resurrection. The image (form shape) of the invisible God is human (Col 1:15, 2 Cor 4:4, 1 Tim 2:5) hence adam could be creatED past tense in the image of God and yet God can still be creatING humanity in His image (moral character).

God bless,
Alex

Dave in Tenn:
Personally, I have trouble believing that "mankind" looks like it does because that's what God looks like.  He took on flesh and became LIKE US, according to scripture.  To me, the "image of God" that we bear has far less to do with the general "shape" of a human being and far more the way we are "put together".  He breathed Spirit into man and it became living soul. 

God is not a 6 foot tall man.   

   

Nelson Boils:
Gen 3:22

"And Jehovah Elohim said, Behold, Man is become AS one of us, to know good and evil.."

This is probably one way that I know Adam is like God.

lilitalienboi16:

--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on September 25, 2016, 04:58:08 PM ---Personally, I have trouble believing that "mankind" looks like it does because that's what God looks like.  He took on flesh and became LIKE US, according to scripture.  To me, the "image of God" that we bear has far less to do with the general "shape" of a human being and far more the way we are "put together".  He breathed Spirit into man and it became living soul. 

God is not a 6 foot tall man.   

   

--- End quote ---

I would enjoy sharing my thoughts further in this discussion if we are permitted Dave. I will share some thoughts under the notion that the discussion is permitted, for now at least.

I really don't think of it as Him having a height or width etc though to appear for all to see Him, would require physical dimensions such as height, width, volume, etc...Measure that in whatever unites you prefer (feet, meters etc...). I see of it more as a form that when we look at Him we recognize. We see Him as something familiar because we've seen it in ourselves all our lives. A form that is similar to ours. Human. Why else would Abraham recognize Jehovah with such comfort and ease to beckon Him in, entertain Him, feed Him? John in revelation describes His appearance and gives Him hair, feet, a waiste etc... In Zechariah we are told His very FEET will stand on the mount of lives. Isaiah describes the appearance of the one above the throne having the likeness of a Man. He appears very human in all His descriptions, why is that? Certainly one can ascertain spiritual truths from physical descriptions but physical descriptions are made because of what is first literally seen. And spiritual truths do not preclude physical realities.

Ray thought that very same thing too, that God is not a man, but he admitted this interpretation was based off a false understanding of Numbers 23. An understanding that he eventually rejected as his own grew.

There are many scriptures to consider in all this but some of them speak very loudly. The invisible God is made visible by the Messiah Jesus who is human. He IS the form/image/shape of the invisible God. 

Colossians 1:19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Diety bodily.

The way I understand becoming LIKE us has nothing to do with form, shape, or image, and more to do with becoming Flesh. Flesh that can get sick, has to use the bathroom, has to eat, gets cold, gets tired, flesh that can die... That is what I see Him becoming LIKE us means. I don't see it having anything to do with taking on the human form or shape. That would be rather an impossibility as He was already described as appearing human throughout the old testament.

Lastly, I think you may misunderstand something I'm saying. When I say physical, I am not implying that one is FLESH. We know God is spirit but God can have a FORM we can see, what I'm calling 'physical' for lack of a better word, AND be SPIRIT and therefor NOT flesh. In fact, Jesus was raised with a spiritual BODY. A body implies a form and as spirit He can choose to appear (become visible to us) or not. And what about When He appears? Will He not then look like a (6ft or whatever feet tall) man?

God bless,
Alex

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