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Terry:
I was telling a friend that the days of our life are numbered nothing we can do to add or take away from that, he sais he didn't agree and gave me this verse

Exo 20:12  Honor thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.

He thinks if we don't Honor our parents we can shorting our life

I need help understanding this

Terry

flaviomusico:
It looks like a contradiction right?
My brother gave the same verse when talking  about the subject,
Here is what i told him:
A person will live to be 90 ,but will look back in his life and say
Man i wasted most of my life doing he wrong things over and over,
Another man will live to be 33 and in that lifespan did more to others than we can't even begin to imagine,
Now ask your self,  WHO GOT TO LIVE THE LONGEST?

Piece  be with you friend.

John from Kentucky:
Hi Terry,

Your friend is ignorant of the Scriptures.  Unless God is guiding him and opening his heart, he cannot understand scriptural truth.  It will be like talking to a wall.  I will do just about anything to avoid discussing scriptural topics with people.

First, your friend would need to understand the Two Witnesses.  You need at least two Scriptures to establish a truth.  The Many will have one Scripture, but they cannot produce two Scriptures that are accurate and on the point.  This biblical requirement is violated all the time, which is why Revelation tells us the Two Witnesses are killed and left for dead on the streets of Jerusalem (the false church).

Second, your friend quotes from the ten commandments, which no longer apply to God's Elect as a law code.  The ten commandments were the heart of the Old Covenant and kept in the Ark of the Covenant.  The Old Covenant is no longer in effect.

If your friend thinks the ten commandments still apply, does he obey the 4th commandment and not work on the 7th day?

Also, if you closely read the Scripture quoted, it says their life will be long in the land God is giving them.  Which refers to the promised land the Israelite were going to.

Several other points, but I have to go somewhere.  But your friend will not understand what I said above.  It will only produce more argument.  There are only a small, small few who have any understanding of these things at this time.

John

lilitalienboi16:
To add to JFK's post, here are the witnesses, the multitude of counselors in who's numbers there is safety;

Job 7:1 Is there not an appointed time to man upon earth? are not his days also like the days of an hireling?

Job 14:5 Seeing his days are determined, the number of his months are with thee, thou hast appointed his bounds that he cannot pass;

Job 14:14 If a man die, shall he live again? all the days of my appointed time will I wait, till my change come.

Ecclesiastes 3:1-2 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven: A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;

Ecc 8:8 8 There is no man that hath power over the spirit to retain the spirit; neither hath he power in the day of death: and there is no discharge in that war; neither shall wickedness deliver those that are given to it.

Psalm 139:16 Your eyes have seen my unformed substance; And in Your book were all written The days that were ordained for me, When as yet there was not one of them.

Examples of people in scripture having appointed times to enter into rest,

King David

2 Sam 7:12"When your days are complete and you lie down with your fathers, I will raise up your descendant after you, who will come forth from you, and I will establish his kingdom.

Moses

Deuteronomy 31:16
The LORD said to Moses, "Behold, you are about to lie down with your fathers; and this people will arise and play the harlot with the strange gods of the land, into the midst of which they are going, and will forsake Me and break My covenant which I have made with them.

Paul

2 Timothy 4:6 For I am already being offered, and the time of my departure is come.

Jesus

John 12:23 And Jesus answereth them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified.
John 12:27 Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour. But for this cause came I unto this hour.

I'm sure there is more examples of appointed times and numvered days but that's what I've got.

God bless,
Alex

lostANDfound:
I think JFK and Alex are right, and I add that IF you do honour your father and mother THEN it was God's will according to His plan and the length of your days in the land were already determined according to your eventual choice.  I imagine JFK was going to say something along those lines if he had time.

Even before there is a word on my tongue, behold, oh Lord, You know it all. Psalm 139:4

I hope alls well with your mom JFK!

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