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Musterseed:
Thankyou for your help. i have another question if you don't mind. Could you please explain this scripture.
"And for this cause, God shall send them strong delusion that they should believe a lie" (Thes.2:11)
There is so much I understand and still so much to learn, I get overwhelmed at times.
Dave in Tenn:
--- Quote from: Musterseed on November 11, 2016, 10:03:29 PM ---Thankyou for your help. i have another question if you don't mind. Could you please explain this scripture.
"And for this cause, God shall send them strong delusion that they should believe a lie" (Thes.2:11)
There is so much I understand and still so much to learn, I get overwhelmed at times.
--- End quote ---
For which cause? Read the verses above.
2Th 2:1 But we entreat of you, my brethren, in regard to the coming of our Lord Jesus the Messiah, and in respect to our being congregated unto him,
2Th 2:2 that ye be not soon agitated in your mind, nor be troubled, neither by word, nor by spirit, nor by letter, as coming from us, that lo, the day of our Lord is at hand.
2Th 2:3 Let no one deceive you in any way; because [that day will not come], unless there previously come a defection, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2Th 2:4 who is an opposer, and exalteth himself above all that is called God and Worshipful; so that he also sitteth in the temple of God, as a God, and displayeth himself, as if he were God.
2Th 2:5 Do ye not remember, that, when I was with you, I told you these things?
2Th 2:6 And now, ye know what hindereth his being manifested in his time.
2Th 2:7 For the mystery of the evil One already beginneth to be operative: and only, if that which now hindereth shall be taken from the midst;
2Th 2:8 then at length will that evil One be revealed; whom our Lord Jesus will consume by the breath of his mouth, and will bring to naught by the visibility of his advent.
2Th 2:9 For the coming of that [evil One], is the working of Satan, with all power, and signs, and lying wonders,
2Th 2:10 and with all the deceptiveness of iniquity, in them that perish; because they did not receive the love of the truth, by which they might have life.
2Th 2:11 Therefore God will send upon them the operation of deception, that they may believe a lie;
2Th 2:12 and that they all may be condemned, who believe not the truth, but have pleasure in iniquity.
You understand who the Evil one working the works of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, and with all deceptiveness of iniquity is?
You understand who "them that perish because they did not receive the love of the truth"--the ones the Evil one is working in--is? That was us, and is all those still having the Evil one working in them with all power and signs and lying wonders and deceptiveness of evil.
2 Thessalonians 2:11 is core teaching at BT, put in many ways in many articles.
God will send upon those who did not receive the love of the truth a "strong delusion"/"operation of deception" that they may believe a lie--(the word translated strong is actually a noun, not an adjective, but the translation is proper, put together) in order that they all may be condemned (essentially, judged) who believe not the truth, but (instead) have pleasure in iniquity.
I'm glad to have been revealed to be "condemned", because He did not come to condemn the world (it stands condemned) but to save it.
That's probably more explanation than you wanted (unless it was less :D ), but if it whets your appetite, read the letters to Hagee and Kennedy and LOF 10 on the front page.
Dave in Tenn:
If you can stomach it, here's a link to an old sermon of Jonathan Edwards. It's a prime example of "that [evil One], is the working of Satan...with all the deceptiveness of iniquity." The poor people in the pews (and at some point earlier, probably Jonathan Edwards himself) were prime examples of "them that perish; because they did not receive the love of the truth, by which they might have life", especially those who received it as "good news" and "took pleasure in iniquity". The best non-theological definition of "iniquity" i can determine is "injustice" above all others.
I had to read excerpts of this sermon in High School back in the early 70's. Or maybe we listened to it on a recording--I can't remember. I think about that every time someone says we need to put God back into the schools.
http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1053&context=etas
Musterseed:
Wow thanks Dave , I certainly do know who the son of perdition is, I had to kiss his ring when he came into our classroom one a week in his long red dress dress and pope hat. There were many of them in my all girl school. Oh but get this. I am not Catholic, I was christened an Anglican
but that's a story for another time. Really though I do appreciate all of your help and yes I did read Rays paper on Hagee . I have to read things over a few times for it to register except for GAl. 4,
When I read that I wanted to jump on my white horse and go galloping up and down the neighbourhood shouting my adoption and all the good news . I have to remind myself sometimes to be still,cause I want everyone to know. I quickly realized , they don't want to know. I really would love for my friend to understand that her fifteen year old son who committed suicide is not burning in Hell. What a shame. I am learning so much here on this forum. I Am starting to feel at home. 😊
Dennis Vogel:
I have an autistic eight year old step-grandson living with me with an 'authority disorder' and he is a hand-full.
My daughter has a more severely autistic 5 year old that will need supervision his entire life.
Every human serves a purpose and plays a role in God plan.
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