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Give a witness?
arion:
--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on December 11, 2016, 02:44:37 AM ---
We are told to give an answer to those who ask us....
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That is the way that I look at it as well. If the 'Christian' religions of the world would learn and practice this they probably wouldn't be as onerous and despised as they are. They are not despised because they stand for truth but they are despised because they barge in and invade people's personal space because they are trying to 'save' them. And you can't really blame them as we were all in that mind set at one time. When you are taught that if people don't get saved and confess Christ before they die then of course the church members are going to go after their loved ones like a dog going after a bone. People are desperate to get their family members to say the sinners prayer or go up to an altar call, ect. And their loved ones pretty much dread spending time with them because they know they are going to get harangued. And it's the same way with the various off shoot denominations that feel they have to go door to door and witness such as the JW's and Mormon's, ect.
When we understand that God has a time table for each and every one of us and only few are being chosen in this age then that takes the pressure off of us. We can save nobody, and if someone asks us a question then it's God opening a door for us. I'm on various Internet forums and what I use for a signature is a question about what the lake of fire is and is their anyway to escape this lake and then I leave a link to the very first teaching of the Lake of Fire series. I've used that signature all over for several years now and God uses that to lead people to the teachings as he wills it to occur. The first time I found this website was because of Ray's teaching on tithing and as much as I wanted to argue with Ray his teaching bookended it and his scriptures proved it. And then a few months later I was bored and found myself back here and I began to read the Lake of Fire series and the rest is history.
Everything is on God's timetable and not mine and he'll get us all where we need to be when we need to be there. If we try to force things by witnessing when we are not asked we might feel relief if we are still under the delusion that this is required behavior for us in pleasing God but it's not going to do anything for the people you witness to unless it's God's time for it to occur and if it's God's time for them then they will ask you a question and then that opens the door for you. IMO of course.
cheekie3:
Arion -
Very well presented. Thank you.
--- Quote from: Arion on December 12, 2016, 11:33:53 AM ---
--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on December 11, 2016, 02:44:37 AM ---
We are told to give an answer to those who ask us....
--- End quote ---
That is the way that I look at it as well. If the 'Christian' religions of the world would learn and practice this they probably wouldn't be as onerous and despised as they are. They are not despised because they stand for truth but they are despised because they barge in and invade people's personal space because they are trying to 'save' them. And you can't really blame them as we were all in that mind set at one time. When you are taught that if people don't get saved and confess Christ before they die then of course the church members are going to go after their loved ones like a dog going after a bone. People are desperate to get their family members to say the sinners prayer or go up to an altar call, ect. And their loved ones pretty much dread spending time with them because they know they are going to get harangued. And it's the same way with the various off shoot denominations that feel they have to go door to door and witness such as the JW's and Mormon's, ect.
When we understand that God has a time table for each and every one of us and only few are being chosen in this age then that takes the pressure off of us. We can save nobody, and if someone asks us a question then it's God opening a door for us. I'm on various Internet forums and what I use for a signature is a question about what the lake of fire is and is their anyway to escape this lake and then I leave a link to the very first teaching of the Lake of Fire series. I've used that signature all over for several years now and God uses that to lead people to the teachings as he wills it to occur. The first time I found this website was because of Ray's teaching on tithing and as much as I wanted to argue with Ray his teaching bookended it and his scriptures proved it. And then a few months later I was bored and found myself back here and I began to read the Lake of Fire series and the rest is history.
Everything is on God's timetable and not mine and he'll get us all where we need to be when we need to be there. If we try to force things by witnessing when we are not asked we might feel relief if we are still under the delusion that this is required behavior for us in pleasing God but it's not going to do anything for the people you witness to unless it's God's time for it to occur and if it's God's time for them then they will ask you a question and then that opens the door for you. IMO of course.
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Warmest Regards.
George
Musterseed:
My sincere condolences John.
This post inspired me to think of all our loved ones who have gone before us and how Blessed we are to have a Father who would give us the knowledge that we will all see each other again. Our sons first child died two years ago, we were devastated. I told my son that God has a reason for everything and he got really angry with me. My son says he's atheist, but he said he blamed God.
How can he blame God if he doesn't believe in Him. I found a little hope in that remark.
I still cannot mention anything about God to my son Matthew,but I daydream of the day, to see the look in my sons eyes when the Lord appears before him holding the hand of our little Ayla and says" Here is your daughter Matthew" So Great is Our God. Love and peace to all🙏🏼 Pamela
octoberose:
There are two points I would like to make. Firstly, what is bibletruths.com but a wittness to the Truth? How many hours upon hours did Ray spend answering e mails from those who call themselves christian ? How much time and effort is still put forth to teach those who have ears to hear? I had my doubts about many doctrines before I got here but I only knew about God as a trinity, free will and hell before I read the words here. Is that not wittnessing? Why can Ray and Dennis and the others do it and not us?
Secondly, Matthew 5 says as repeated here to Let your light shine before men so they will glorify God. So, what are you doing to bring Glory to God so people notice? Not my words - words from the new testament . Light illuminates ! Salt preserves! Is that quiet? Maybe some are loud with words and some loud with actions . Either way- God is to be glorified.
Porter:
--- Quote from: octoberose on December 13, 2016, 03:06:43 AM ---There are two points I would like to make. Firstly, what is bibletruths.com but a wittness to the Truth? How many hours upon hours did Ray spend answering e mails from those who call themselves christian ? How much time and effort is still put forth to teach those who have ears to hear? I had my doubts about many doctrines before I got here but I only knew about God as a trinity, free will and hell before I read the words here. Is that not wittnessing? Why can Ray and Dennis and the others do it and not us?
Secondly, Matthew 5 says as repeated here to Let your light shine before men so they will glorify God. So, what are you doing to bring Glory to God so people notice? Not my words - words from the new testament . Light illuminates ! Salt preserves! Is that quiet? Maybe some are loud with words and some loud with actions . Either way- God is to be glorified.
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It looks like you've partially answered your own question with "some are loud with words and some loud with actions". We are all different parts of the body of Christ with different functions I think. Some are silent, but yet they too are witnesses shining bright and glorifying God. God can make a witness out of a rock if He wanted to. ;D
I don't know about the "others" you mentioned, but I found where Ray explained a bit as to why he did what he did.
https://bible-truths.com/souls.htm
I'm asked why I teach the Truths of God if "All is of God," and God does all the choosing and drawing? Because that is HOW God operates. God uses the foolishness of preaching as one of His means by which He communicates with His Elect:
"Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this world? Has not God made foolish [Gk: ‘stupid’] the wisdom of this world? For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe" (I Cor. 1:20-21).
And it is God who grants us faith as His gift (Eph. 2: 8) , to believe this "foolish preaching" of God’s true servants of the Gospel.
Certainly we should all follow Peter’s admonition to:
"…be ready always to give an answer to every man that asks you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear [reverence]" (I Pet. 3:15).But God has not called all to be teachers:
"Not all are apostles. Not all are prophets. Not all are teachers" (I Cor. 12:29, Concordant Literal N.T.).
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