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Right doctrin?
Hellisfake:
Hello friends! A question for you: How important do you think God looks at this with having the right doctrine? In addition to that we have to overcome sin to be one of the chosen ones, how much do you believe that God requires of us that the doctrine is right? Do you think that there is a minimum level of it? And do you have any thoughts on where this level is?
Hellisfake:
I would add that besides the obvious that you believe in God as the savior of all.
Dave in Tenn:
Heb 12:1 Let *us* also therefore, having so great a cloud of witnesses surrounding us, laying aside every weight, and sin which so easily entangles us, run with endurance the race that lies before us,
Heb 12:2 looking stedfastly on Jesus the leader and completer of faith: who, in view of the joy lying before him, endured the cross, having despised the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
Heb 12:3 For consider well him who endured so great contradiction from sinners against himself, that ye be not weary, fainting in your minds.
Read the parables concerning the Kingdom of the Heavens. Here's one.
Mat 13:18 Then hear the parable of the sower:
Mat 13:19 Everyone hearing the Word of the kingdom, and not understanding, then the evil one comes and catches away that which was sown in his heart. This is that sown by the roadside.
Mat 13:20 And that sown on the stony places is this: the one hearing the Word, and immediately receiving it with joy,
Mat 13:21 but has no root in himself, but is temporary, and tribulation, or persecution occurring because of the Word, he is at once offended.
Mat 13:22 And that sown into the thorn bushes is this: the one hearing the Word, and the anxiety of this age, and the deceit of riches, choke the Word, and it becomes unfruitful.
Mat 13:23 But that sown on the good ground is this: the one hearing the Word, and understanding it, who indeed bears and yields fruit, one truly a hundredfold, and one sixty, and one thirty.
You're in there. Try not to let old sermons cloud your thinking on what all that means. It will mean to you what it means in YOUR race. HE throws the seed. You are some type of ground. He already knows what type. You are discovering it along the way. And you won't know what it means in full until it has already happened. We are HIS workmanship and He's working IN us. "...laying aside every weight, and sin (error, mistake, anxiety, deceit) which so easily entangles us..." Why be concerned with a "minimum level"?
What else is someone supposed to tell you? If I didn't think my "doctrine" was "right", would I have it? I'd be mentally unhinged if I didn't actually believe what it is I actually believe. I'd just be a liar if I didn't believe what I SAID I believed. How can I know "more" or "less" today than I know today?
Pini56:
Hello,
There is no Level!!
Do you have the 'Spirit Of The Lord' (Holy Spirit) dwelling within you. I am assuming that you do.
Okay. You have what I call 'Holy Spirit Perception' as well as the Assurance that you will be Saved if you Endure to the End.
In all of the Lords Parables what is the common attribute.
The Parables are all Created from what the Lord saw happening around Him all through his Life.
These Parables have One common theme and that is: 'The Called And The Chosen'.
You have this same perception wherever you go and whatever you do.
Learn from these because they will confirm 'The Word'. Hence 'Truth'.
I am afraid that you will not learn much by just Hearing 'The Word'.
But by Doing what 'The Word' says, it will be Confirmed to you by what you Do and 'See'. Hence 'Really' Learning.
One thing I learned through my life was just to Rest in the Lord. Instead of getting caught up in what his will is or is not. Just rest in the fact that whatever you are doing he is there with you and teaching you as you go.
As far as Doctrine is concerned there must two or more Witnesses of Spiritually Matching Scriptures for it to be Doctrine, therefore Safe to Teach as Truth.
Love To You And Yours. Regards, Geoff.
P.S. Love Others not in word but in Deeds. Actions speak louder than Words. It is no good Sprouting Scriptures to someone if there is no Love in your Heart for them. They know your love by your actions. If you are Love in Word only they will not Hear you, but Love in action Speaks Volumes. Your Words will be more readily accepted if you have been Love in Action First. This goes a long way to 'Overcoming Sin'. Unfortunately On this Forum alone it is very hard to do.
indianabob:
Hi friend,
Not sure I am correctly responding to your question but here goes.
When a person first becomes aware that they are being called it is like being given an "earnest" of the spirit of God or a "pledge" leading to understanding. It is just a small amount that opens the door and piques your curiosity to inquire more diligently. At that point, no matter your age, you are a babe in Christ. Like a babe you need loving care and are very curious and full of questions. That is the beginning of your personal journey with Christ. As someone else has mentioned we usually aren't made aware of this gift until we look back at our life's journey.
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Depending upon the other challenges in your life you may learn at a faster or slower rate, God know your situation and sets the pace of your learning according to His will..
I suppose the main or more valuable "doctrine" to hold is to "believe God" much the way Abram did when God called him to leave his family home and go to a place God would show him. As the story relates, Abram just went and trusted God to guide him a little farther each day. Of course we should remember that even our believing is a gift and not of our own making.
That has been my experience over the past 47 years and there have been some slow spots that challenged me while we had young children at home. Sometimes God reserves our progress for the best interest of other family members such as teens or a disinterested spouse. So we don't need to be concerned about the rate of progress, only that we begin each new day trusting God to keep His pledge to make us a light unto the world.
Thanks for the question, Indiana bob
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