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John from Kentucky:

--- Quote from: Doug on December 17, 2016, 10:35:50 PM ---Well it seems I have tied myself in knots for decades over this for nothing. I would even feel bad when someone would say have a merry christmas and I respond you too.

I appreciate everyone's reply. Not sure I will every get the words out merry christmas but will not beat myself up over what ever comes out.

John, you surprised me, I thought your reply would have been more like Porter's.

Again thanks to all this has been a big help.

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"God bless us, everyone!"  Just like Tiny Tim said.

Dave in Tenn:
There is more "gospel" in many traditional Christmas hymns than in many other ones.  Glad tidings of great joy which shall be to ALL PEOPLE.  Can't even believe the Angels, even when they want to. 

Last time I went to a Christmas music thing, I was struck by the bland faces of the choir singing about Jesus being the Savior of the World.  I couldn't help but notice not only the emotional contradiction, but the doctrinal "prison" they find themselves in having to mentally add "...if they use their free-will to choose Him before they die..."  As a song-writer, I can tell you that doesn't scan.  As one once blind myself, I pity them.

Might I do it again?

22 Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth.

The first Christmas after I came to believe in the Salvation of all was the happiest I'd spent in many a year.  And I can assure you before God that all the "avoiding" of the accouterments I'd done in the previous years was of NO MERIT whatsoever, nor has it been since. 

But you do your thing.  I'm not making a list, checking it twice, trying to find out who's naughty or nice.     

Dennis Vogel:

--- Quote from: Extol on December 17, 2016, 10:41:00 PM ---You've received some excellent replies, Doug, and I can't advise you any better than the others have already done.

I will say, though, that I actually like some things about Christmas, and I think a lot of people who point out the "pagan origins" of Christmas are just being holier-than-thou. I don't feel I am compromising my beliefs or "going back to Babylon" by listening to Christmas music. I even went to a Lutheran high school Christmas concert last week and had a swell time. If the heavenly host can say “Glory to God in the highest, And on earth peace, goodwill toward men! then I don't see anything wrong with songs that celebrate Jesus' birth, regardless of what time of year He was born.

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Yes:

Php 1:18  What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.

arion:
Also in Romans;

Rom 14:5-6  One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.  He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.


Like everyone else in the world of Christendom I fully celebrated Christmas but over time I learned of the pagan roots to the church holidays so I no longer celebrate them.  And even the churches pretty much admit that Christ wasn't born on Dec 25th.  I will return a 'Merry Christmas' to those who proffer it but I no longer celebrate the season or the day.  And since at one time I fully engaged in all the Christmas hubbub in my ignorance I certainly don't judge those that are still enthralled with it.

2Co 5:16  Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.

Blessings.....

Terry:
I don't see any of these scriptures by Paul that suggest that he would be involved  in paganism, being polite and humble of course, I believe after Paul's conversion he was different. I don't say this to sound holier-than - thou i'm probably the least holy on the forum, I remember Ray saying if the church does it its probably wrong,

Terry

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