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lilitalienboi16:

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--- Quote from: lilitalienboi16 on January 09, 2017, 12:09:51 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dennis Vogel on January 09, 2017, 12:07:44 PM ---I'm still a long way from feeling normal. Yesterday I had some bread which knocked me out of ketosis (no sugar or carbs) and I feel dizzy and sick to my stomach today because of it. It's not easy going carb free. It's hard to find something to eat. But at least I know what not to do.

Thank you for your prayers.

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Why are you trying to enter a ketotic state? That's pre starvation and leads to ketoacidosis, a life threatening condition. Ask diabetics.

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It's not the same as medical ketosis. It's a ketogenic diet. It's very safe for only a few months. But some people have been on it for years with no problems. Ray was on it and it made his diabetes go away.

I register at number 5 out of these 7 in ketosis.



Eskimo's ate nothing but seals, fish and blubber and did fine on it. They had zero sugar or carbs.

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According to a quick google search, Eskimo's ate carbs in the form of biscuits, rye flour, potatoes, and rice.

First search link hit; http://openheart.bmj.com/content/3/2/e000444.full (paragraph 3 for my information).

I think its a bit of a myth to believe they ate no carbs. The human body requires carbs, its the main fuel source for the brain and many other cell types in the body. Hypoglycemia causes the body to enter starvation mode which after a week or two leads to death. Hypoglycemia causes many organ dysfunctions including ph imbalance which is a death sentence to the body's cells and enzymes operating under very tightly controlled ph of ~7.4

lilitalienboi16:
Wikipedia on Inuit eskimo's, under Nutrition section;

Because the climate of the Arctic is ill-suited for agriculture and lacks forageable plant matter for much of the year, the traditional Inuit diet is lower in carbohydrates and higher in fat and animal protein compared to the global average. When carbohydrate intake is inadequate for total energy requirements, protein is broken down in the liver through gluconeogenesis and utilized as an energy source. Inuit studied in the 1970s were found to have abnormally large livers, presumably to assist in this process. Their urine volumes were also high, a result of additional urea which the body uses to purge waste products from gluconeogenesis.[9] However, in multiple studies the traditional Inuit diet has not been shown to be a ketogenic diet.[10][11][12][13] Not only have multiple researchers been unable to detect any evidence of ketosis resulting from the traditional Inuit Diet, but the ratios of fatty-acid to glucose were observed to be well below the generally accepted level of ketogenesis.[10][11][12][13]

Inuit actually consume more carbohydrates than most nutritionists have assumed.[14] Because Inuit frequently eat their meat raw and fresh, or freshly frozen, they can obtain more carbohydrates from their meat, as dietary glycogen, than Westerners can.[14][15] The Inuit practice of preserving a whole seal or bird carcass under an intact whole skin with a thick layer of blubber also permits some proteins to ferment, or hydrolyze, into carbohydrates.[14] Furthermore, the blubber, organs, muscle and skin of the marine mammals that Inuit eat have significant glycogen stores, which assist those animals when oxygen is depleted on prolonged dives.[16][17][18] For instance, when blubber is analyzed by direct carbohydrate measurements, it has been shown to contain as much as 8—30% carbohydrates.[17] While postmortem glycogen levels are often depleted through the onset of rigor mortis, marine mammals have a much delayed onset of rigor mortis, even in warm conditions, presumably due to the high content of oxymyoglobin in the muscle that may permit aerobic metabolism to continue slowly for some time after the death of the animal.[17][19] Additionally, in cold conditions, glycogen's depletion is halted at -18 °C (-0.4 °F) and lower temperatures in comminuted meat.[20][21]

Traditional Inuit diets derive approximately 50% of their calories from fat, 30–35% from protein and 15–20% of their calories from carbohydrates, largely in the form of glycogen from the raw meat they consumed.[22][23] This high fat content provides valuable energy and prevents protein poisoning, which historically was sometimes a problem in late winter when game animals grew lean through winter starvation. It has been suggested that because the fats of the Inuit's wild-caught game are largely monounsaturated and rich in omega-3 fatty acids, the diet does not pose the same health risks as a typical Western high-fat diet.[24] However, actual evidence has shown that Inuit have a similar prevalence of coronary artery disease as non-Inuit populations and they have excessive mortality due to cerebrovascular strokes, with twice the risk to that of the North American population.[25][26] Indeed, the cardiovascular risk of this diet is so severe that the addition of a more standard American diet has reduced the incidence of mortality in Inuit population.[27] Furthermore, fish oil supplement studies have failed to support claims of preventing heart attacks or strokes.[28][29][30]

Src: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuit_diet

Definitely a myth.

God bless,
Alex

Dennis Vogel:
In any event when I eat carbs now I get so sick I pray to die. So I don't really care.

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-13134292

I know I felt a lot better the day after I stopped sugar and carbs (but I almost never ate sugar anyways).

I also found several papers on baking soda and kidney disease. It helps a little but I rarely use it.

Like I said Thursday was the first day in several months I felt I could get through a doctor's visit.

I don't want to die, but I do not want to live like this much longer either. It's not living. I'm trapped in my bedroom all the time and I am sick of this computer and my TV.

Still waiting for the doctor to get back with me on my lab results.

But thank you for your input.

lilitalienboi16:
Sorry to hear that Dennis and youre very welcome! Have you been checked for celiacs disease, glutten insensitivity?

Dennis Vogel:
Waiting on the lab results.

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