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Laren:
--- Quote from: discipleindeed on August 20, 2006, 01:35:47 AM ---Hello all,
Those who who have not received the mark cannot buy or sell , they cannot buy (believe) what the world offers (false doctrines, false teachings) or sell (convince) the world of the truth of Christ.
Love in Christ,
Aaron
--- End quote ---
This statement to me implies that some don't receive the mark of the beast. But if we are all beasts, all antichrists, havent' we all received this mark??
How do we receive the mark?? Spiritually i'm talking here, not physically??
maybe receiving the mark occurs the day we see our true nature. And at that point we can now buy and sell. We can sell all our carnal possesions, and buy gold refined in the fire???
Similar to the law, it has to administer death, in order to be our tutor to lead us to Christ
???? just wondering
Kat:
Hi Laren,
I found this in Ray's Lake of Fire series.
I took out a small part that was particularly about the mark of the beast.
http://bible-truths.com/lake13.html
Let me recap this just a little for you. First comes a wild beast out of the sea with seven heads and ten horns. A second wild beast comes out of the earth like a lamb with two horns speaking like a dragon and he calls down fire from heaven and deceives the whole world by miracles. This second wild beasts makes everyone worship the first wild beast. This wild beast from the earth then causes everyone on earth to make an image of the first wild beast from the sea and makes everyone worship this image of the wild beast from the sea or be killed.
This image of the wild beast from the sea then causes everyone to worship this image, and causes all to receive a MARK of the first wild beast from the sea in their right hand, or in their foreheads. They can have either a mark or the name or the number of his name, and that number is said (albeit not correctly said) to be the number of a man, and it is the number 666.
Now repeat all that back to me in your own words! Okay, let’s try this shortened version: a beast from the earth causes all to worship a beast from the sea and to also make an image of this beast from the sea, who then causes all to receive either a mark, name, or number. Got it?
*the image, name, and number of the wild beast" all have reference to the one beast that comes up out of the sea and is the wild beast made reference to for the remainder of the book of Revelation. It is this very "wild beast" along with the "false prophet" which is ultimately "…cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone" (Rev. 19:21).
Hope this help.
Kat
gmik:
--- Quote from: discipleindeed on August 20, 2006, 01:35:47 AM ---Hello all,
(Proverbs 23:23 KJVR) Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.
(Revelation 13:17 KJVR) And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Those who have the mark can buy and sell what the world offers (false doctrines, false teachings).
Those who who have not received the mark cannot buy or sell , they cannot buy (believe) what the world offers (false doctrines, false teachings) or sell (convince) the world of the truth of Christ.
Love in Christ,
Aaron
--- End quote ---
Aaron, I loved that. Had never thought it in that way.
Joey Porter:
Interesting insight here. I wonder how this all relates to the parable of the wise and foolish virgins:
Matthew 25
6"At midnight the cry rang out: 'Here's the bridegroom! Come out to meet him!'
7"Then all the virgins woke up and trimmed their lamps. 8The foolish ones said to the wise, 'Give us some of your oil; our lamps are going out.'
9" 'No,' they replied, 'there may not be enough for both us and you. Instead, go to those who sell oil and buy some for yourselves.'
10"But while they were on their way to buy the oil, the bridegroom arrived. The virgins who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet. And the door was shut.
snorky:
Thanks for your postings and this thread! Interesting, what Aaron brought up about not being able to sell the truth of Christ and not being able to buy the "strong delusion" of the "Christian" church (Christendom).
It was all that National ID card business, all that microchip stuff, all the paranoia of the Clinton years, what with the militias and stuff me and my husband was on the fringe of (remember the 1997 "Republic of Texas" standoff? We lived a mile from where it happened and knew the leader of it very well), that got me searching for Christ's truth on ths issue. When I read Ray's LOF series in about a week, hardly being able to stand having to go to bed because I simply couldn't keep my eyes open reading a computer screen for several hours at a time, and when he said "the beast is YOU!" it all started making sense! Yes, we all received the mark of the beast, the carnal mind and heart, and all have to overcome it, in part, by not buying into Christendom's heresies, but also, not being able to sell the truth of Christ. But that is because those who don't buy and sell are the chosen who receive the mark of God for overcoming the mark of the beast...but only by His Sovereign Will...He chooses the chosen. The thing is it hurts (like Job, one has to accept the Will of God but one doesn't necessarily have to like it) when the one I am trying to explain the truth to refuses to accept it (God's Will), and still believes all the nonsense about: the rapture, rebuilding the temple in physical Jerusalem, national ID cards, John Hagee's crap about Israel, etc.
Please, people, be with me spiritually and bear with me physically!--snorky
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