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Antisocial Isolationist
lareli:
I would categorize myself as both emotionally isolated and antisocial. What, exactly, is wrong with that?
https://bible-truths.com/email4.htm#punkrock
Hi, I'm Esther.
I'm 13 going on 14 this Saturday. I really like rock and punk and I was wondering is it ok for me to still like them even though I'm a Christian?
Plus I don't listen to the songs about death, drugs, sex, or anything like that. As for punk, I just like the style.
[Ray Replies]
Dear Esther:
When I was 13 and 14, and even 15-20, I too liked things that seemed to be okay at the time. Things like girly magazines and smoking cigarettes. The reason for this is that, "FOOLISHNESS is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it FAR FROM HIM" (Prov. 22:15).
Trust me, Esther, many many of the things that seem (maybe not necessarily good and wholesome), but at least NOT EVIL, when we are young, will seem like foolishness when we are older and wiser. The "rod of correction" spoken of in the Proverbs can mean ANYTHING that shows you that your ways are wrong. We often refer to this rod as, "The School of Hard Knocks." Ask your mother if she ever learned anything at this International University?
Sometimes the "lesser of two evils" seems to proper course to go, however, both the greater and the lesser evils will bite you like a poisonous snake one day. A definition might be in order at this time, Esther:
Punk rock n. Rock 'n' roll characterized by extremely fast tempos and lyrics expressing emotional isolation and ANTISOCIAL ATTITUDES" (American Heritage College Dictionary, page 1130).
Do you wish to be an "isolationist with antisocial attitudes?" I hope not. But be of good cheer, "THIS ALSO SHALL PASS" (with time).
God be with you (and your parents),
Ray
Extol:
I looked up antisocialand it's stronger than simply not wanting to hang out with people (which is how I am, and presumably how you are.)
Here are two definitions from dictionary.com:
1. Unwilling or unable to associate with others in a friendly or normal way.
2. Antagonistic , hostile, or unfriendly; menacing.
I think punk rock--at least the definition Ray cited--is more of the second.
Dave in Tenn:
Going with Extol's first definition:
If you had asked "what is wrong with being cynical and depressed?" (as I was minutes before stumbling onto BT and wasn't minutes after) I'd answer, "It isn't all that great, thanks." in my usual understated way. ;D
I still have my moments which serve to remind me from where I came and as a "marker" in my life to let me know if the direction I'm going (the things I'm thinking and doing) is advancing "salvation" from those things or returning me to them.
Is it OK to be "Unwilling or unable to associate with others in a friendly or normal way"? Maybe it is when it is and it isn't when it isn't. I can't imagine going on and on being "unwilling or unable", but like everything else, it serves it's purpose now. Kinda like the man born blind.
Dave in Tenn:
2Pe 1:5-10 But also in this very thing, having brought in all diligence, having fully supplied in your faith virtue,
and with virtue knowledge,
and with the knowledge self-control,
and with the self-control patience,
and with the patience godliness,
and with the godliness brotherly love,
and with brotherly love, love.
For these things being in you, and abounding, they will make you not idle, not unfruitful in the full knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. For the one in whom these things are not present is blind, being shortsighted, taking on forgetfulness of the cleansing of his sins in time past. Therefore, brothers, rather be diligent to make sure of your calling and election; for doing these things, you will not ever fall.
cheekie3:
largeli -
Interesting statement:
--- Quote from: largeli on February 24, 2017, 05:05:29 PM ---I would categorize myself as both emotionally isolated and antisocial. What, exactly, is wrong with that?
https://bible-truths.com/email4.htm#punkrock
Hi, I'm Esther.
I'm 13 going on 14 this Saturday. I really like rock and punk and I was wondering is it ok for me to still like them even though I'm a Christian?
Plus I don't listen to the songs about death, drugs, sex, or anything like that. As for punk, I just like the style.
[Ray Replies]
Dear Esther:
When I was 13 and 14, and even 15-20, I too liked things that seemed to be okay at the time. Things like girly magazines and smoking cigarettes. The reason for this is that, "FOOLISHNESS is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it FAR FROM HIM" (Prov. 22:15).
Trust me, Esther, many many of the things that seem (maybe not necessarily good and wholesome), but at least NOT EVIL, when we are young, will seem like foolishness when we are older and wiser. The "rod of correction" spoken of in the Proverbs can mean ANYTHING that shows you that your ways are wrong. We often refer to this rod as, "The School of Hard Knocks." Ask your mother if she ever learned anything at this International University?
Sometimes the "lesser of two evils" seems to proper course to go, however, both the greater and the lesser evils will bite you like a poisonous snake one day. A definition might be in order at this time, Esther:
Punk rock n. Rock 'n' roll characterized by extremely fast tempos and lyrics expressing emotional isolation and ANTISOCIAL ATTITUDES" (American Heritage College Dictionary, page 1130).
Do you wish to be an "isolationist with antisocial attitudes?" I hope not. But be of good cheer, "THIS ALSO SHALL PASS" (with time).
God be with you (and your parents),
Ray
--- End quote ---
I look at it like this:
What agreement do I have with an atheist?
I have some agreement but not all - so I limit my relationship with the atheist to those things that we have in common (like families, food, weather, etc).
I can never be totally open with an atheist as they do not accept that we live in a Created environment.
Can two walk together, lest they agree?
No.
How many Called Out Elect are there at this time?
The very few.
So, my conclusion is that it is not possible for The Elect to be at home with the world and its beliefs as they are all alien to The Elect.
In His Own Time, we will all be of a like mind - but until the endgame has been completed, we The Elect are peculiar and separated.
Warmest Regards.
George
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