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Eating from the beginning until after the flood
lareli:
--- Quote from: Dennis Vogel on May 18, 2017, 10:41:01 AM ---God put things into motion.
Grass still grows and multiplies but that does not mean God is creating grass everyday.
--- End quote ---
Would this apply to all living things or just some? I know Ray wrote that God does create people. Not just putting the human race into motion by creating the originals. Are humans the only living things that God creates?
From the Lucifer Hoax Paper:
ARE BABIES BORN, OR DOES GOD CREATE THEM?
Whether one is born of a woman or created directly out of the dust of the ground as was Adam, they are both "creations of God." Here is Scriptural proof that created can be applied to those born of a woman:
"But now thus says the Lord that created thee, O Jacob, and He that formed you, O Israel..." (Isa. 43:1).
"...bring my sons from far, and my daughters from the ends of the earth; Even every one that is called by My name: for I have created him; yea, I have made him" (Isa. 43:6-7).
"Thus says the Lord God concerning the Ammonites... I will judge you [Ammonites] in the place where you were created..." (Ezek. 21:28 & 30).
"Have we not all one father? Has not one God created US [ALL mankind]" (Mal. 2:10).
lareli:
So it would seem to George's question
As Genesis 1 is the full Creation, and then God Rested from all his work on the seventh day - and Adam and Eve were then made after the full Creation (and after He Created Mankind) - does this mean that God continued His Work of Creation after the six days?
The answer would be "yes" because God is still creating (unless I'm misunderstanding what Ray wrote)... or perhaps are we still in the 6th day?
Dennis Vogel:
God has a plan:
Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
Eph 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
Eph 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
Before the foundation of the world includes Adam and Eve.
Ecc 3:11 He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end.
Everything in God's plan has and is coming true.
Dave in Tenn:
Steven, I hope I can rest your mind by saying that Ray did NOT go into any theological tangents regarding who this "serpent" was, even though he did teach that there were people before "Adam".
I've gone back and forth and here and there on this matter (an all related to it). From my perspective, it is MOST important to remember (and learn if we have not) that no scripture is it's own interpretation. I've said on this forum before that my "faith" is not in any creation "explanation". I simply wasn't there, and I have great biblical company in that. My "faith" is in Jesus Christ.
I can't trace my lineage back further than a handful of generations. Few of us can do much better. All I know is that all of "my people" were sinners, and that all but my mother are dead. I really don't care much about "Adam" or "Eve" or Cain and Abel, or Seth...or the Serpent. What they represented (whether in history or in inspired literature) is true, true, true.
It's is GRACE which is "super-abundant" over anything and everything that flowed from Genesis 3. I don't care much what anybody's "opinion" is on these matters. As long as they don't tell me that "the bible says" what the "Bible doesn't say" in support of their imaginings.
Dave in Tenn:
Largeli, I'm too busy to do a proper word study on that English translation. But let me say this with a clear head: YOU were created in the womb. The proof is that YOU are YOU and not anybody else, and nobody else is YOU. But remember that not even the heavens and the earth were created out of nothing.
YOU were also formed in the womb, as were all of us. It was the "forming" that made you what you were in the beginning. What you are now is from a different sort of forming, in measure.
"But now thus says the Lord that created thee, O Jacob, and He that formed you, O Israel..." (Isa. 43:1).
"...bring my sons from far, and my daughters from the ends of the earth; Even every one that is called by My name: for I have created him; yea, I have made him" (Isa. 43:6-7).
"Thus says the Lord God concerning the Ammonites... I will judge you [Ammonites] in the place where you were created..." (Ezek. 21:28 & 30).
"Have we not all one father? Has not one God created US [ALL mankind]" (Mal. 2:10).
Well, hasn't HE? If I could trace my lineage back to "Adam" and "Eve", I've STILL not gone back far enough, according to Scripture.
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