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lareli:
--- Quote from: indianabob on May 12, 2017, 04:03:57 PM ---Hi Brenda,
Also from the Strong's concordance 5172 & 5175 the word translated serpent or snake
can mean "hiss" or "whisper" or "enchanter/enchanted".
So could it be that Eve heard a whisper in her mind and was enchanted by that means to take it upon herself to disobey.
Since Satan is invisible and spiritual why did she have to "see" a serpent a physical manifestation.
Perhaps a thought just formed in her mind, put there by Satan that made her curious.
Then she thought further and heard what she took to be an answer.
Especially considering that the Bible says she was deceived whereas Adam was not deceived.
Thanks for the question, Indiana Bob
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That's interesting Bob. That is, that "serpent" can be translated as "hiss" or "whisper".
But then again, Kat was quoted as saying that there were two seeds in the garden. Two real physical literal seeds. Could that be true if the serpent was only a thought/whisper in Eves mind?
cheekie3:
Brenda -
Regarding who Satan is:
--- Quote from: Brenda on May 11, 2017, 03:36:18 AM ---I found this written by KAT on 17 September 2016 - But what most cannot see is that there are two separate seeds that are in the world from this account, one of the seeds is from Adam and Eve, God's chosen and the line that would continue all the way to Christ's birth. While there is another real physical/literal seed spoken of... if you cannot see that the "serpent" was not a snake, but a living human and could only be those people living at the time Adam was formed and brought to life, then you cannot understand this.
My question here is, is Satan a man, and if so, where in Scripture do we find this description of Satan?
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Here is the teaching from Ray that may help you find what you are looking for:
https://bible-truths.com/lake9.html
Warmest Regards.
George
lareli:
--- Quote from: StevenL on May 15, 2017, 05:50:50 PM ---As far as I've seen so far, Ray did NOT teach the 'serpent's seed' doctrine nor the 'pre-Adamic race' doctrine. I've examined both of these along the way, tossed both aside, and would have picked up on it had Ray gotten into it.
I won't argue for or against either here.
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Won't be much help to you if I can't remember the exact YouTube video (so I apologize in advance) but I do recall a YouTube video where Ray was talking about Cain and Abel and how after God exiled Cain for murdering Abel, Cain complained that anyone who found him would kill him.. I can't remember Rays exact words but In the teaching he used Cains words to show that there may have been "others" on the earth at that time... but even if there were "others" at the time of Caines exile; I suppose that doesn't mean that those "others" were there pre-Adam. Dunno.
Dennis Vogel:
https://youtu.be/2AbrPxV1uQU
indianabob:
Hi Folks,
If the Adam that God used as the progenitor of descendants leading to Christ was not the first, how do we reconcile the blood line of Jesus the second Adam?
Were those others created as a group similar to a group of Elk or Bears or as pairs of adults but in various locations throughout the earth?
Was the male created first and the woman taken out of it for spiritual reasons or did that not matter for the others who came before?
Regarding the animal population: since they reproduce very rapidly with minimal gestation periods and rapid sexual maturity in temperate climates such as earth was near the equator why could not Adam have begun counting and naming them sometime after the first birthing season just as he is assumed to have done with his own children later in his life. After all wasn't Adam alive for some time before Eve was produced and prior to the birth of his perhaps hundreds of children, grandchildren?
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