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Dennis Vogel:
But their truths are surrounded by doctrinal lies.

It is impossible for them to discern between good and evil because God blinds them. "But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age." They are not full of age (mature).

Joel:
Matthew 13:33-Another parable spake he unto them; The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.

Matthew 16:6-Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees.
11-How is it that ye do not understand that I spake it not to you concerning bread, that ye should beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees?
12-Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the DOCTRINE of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.

Matthew 15:9-But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

The names have changed over the years, but we should beware in this day and age also.

Joel

lareli:

--- Quote from: Dennis Vogel on June 07, 2017, 01:21:26 PM ---But their truths are surrounded by doctrinal lies.

It is impossible for them to discern between good and evil because God blinds them. "But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age." They are not full of age (mature).

--- End quote ---

What makes it even more so deceptive Dennis, is that often times you can go to church and hear it taught that Jesus Christ died for your sins.. period. You don't automatically hear it taught that they believe that Jesus was conscious in some other dimension. You'd be pulled in with the one truth that Jesus died for your sins. Maybe the church (like the one I went to) leaves it at that and you'd have to press them to find out what lies they attached to individual truths or what their official church doctrine is.

Recently I'd been emailing back and forth with an old friend who's a pastor. I engaged in emailing him because he made a public social media post which he was seemingly asking a question directed towards those who do not attend church anymore. We had to email back and forth several times with me asking him what exactly he believed before he'd admit that his doctrine included eternal hell and all that.

It's been my experience with church folks that they take the attitude of "lets just agree to believe in Jesus and love people" and they do not like to be questioned about their official church doctrine. In this pastors case, he said that people make their doctrines their god, and in his eyes we should just love God and love people and keep it as simple as that.

Even if some truths of God are taught in the church, if you can discern between good and evil you will be able to discern that they cannot. That's what I've seen anyway. Based on the church I grew up in. They sometimes teach truths, they believe lies, and it isn't always public what the lies are that they believe... but they cannot discern between good and evil. That much you can know by their fruits. They don't try and hide that because they can't even discern that they can't discern. They're naked and they don't know it.

Dennis Vogel:
Joh 12:40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

2Co 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Mat 15:14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

Isa 6:10 Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.

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