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John from Kentucky:
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--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on July 27, 2017, 04:29:03 PM ---There is no free will. God created evil.
The Scriptures say, "There is none good, no not one" and "All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God."
Since none are good, it follows God intended for all to sin because God is sovereign and nothing goes against His will.
Mankind sins because unseen forces compel mankind to sin. We do not freely decide to do good or evil. Mankind was created flawed.
Judas did not freely choose to betray Jesus. Peter did not freely choose to deny Jesus. All the Apostles did not freely choose to be cowards and abandon Jesus. They did what they were compelled to do.
And many here among us do not freely choose to be ignorant and not understand the above truths, which are plainly taught in the Scriptures and in articles on this website. You are compelled by forces you do not know or understand to follow the teachings of the great false church.
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So for those of us who are ignorant, do you have any extra smart pills that we can take?
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Only Jesus saves. Only Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. Only Jesus reveals the Father.
Mankind is dust. If you lack wisdom and knowledge, pray to God. He will not abandon those who tremble at His words and are of a humble heart. Not the fake humility of the Christian Church. Every Christian I know first tells you how humble they are, then tells you how good they are by the good works they do.
"Not by might, nor by power, but by My Spirit says the LORD God Almighty."
John from Kentucky:
--- Quote from: Musterseed on July 27, 2017, 06:44:35 PM ---I totally agree John. We are created as weak minded carnal beasts to be tamed. I don't know why
God did it this way, I just know it is the best way for His Master Plan.
The Apostles did not freely choose to be Apostles. They were just doing their everyday work when Jesus walked by and said " Follow me" , He didn't give them an application to fill out and they didn't even question Him , they just dropped everything and by a supernatural compelling force, they followed, they wanted to follow, they wanted to Love Him. He compels us , He is in control of everything and It is so comforting to know this because the world is headed exactly where He wants it to go. Like Ray said" The world will be in turmoil when Jesus comes "and I can't wait for
every knee to bow to Him and know that He is God. If God wanted the world to believe in Him right now, it would, but He doesn't. That day is coming though and I say " Come Lord Jesus
My kids profess to be atheists, however they believe in the false doctrine of free will without even knowing its of the great false church teaching. Our Lord God is awesome. You are right John, if I am meant to be ignorant about some things, it is in the plan. All is of God. Amen...... God Bless You my friend,,,,, Pamela
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Right on, right on, right on. Flow, Spirit, Flow.
Mickiel:
--- Quote from: Mickiel on July 27, 2017, 05:46:29 PM ---
--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on July 27, 2017, 04:29:03 PM ---There is no free will. God created evil.
The Scriptures say, "There is none good, no not one" and "All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God."
Since none are good, it follows God intended for all to sin because God is sovereign and nothing goes against His will.
Mankind sins because unseen forces compel mankind to sin. We do not freely decide to do good or evil. Mankind was created flawed.
Judas did not freely choose to betray Jesus. Peter did not freely choose to deny Jesus. All the Apostles did not freely choose to be cowards and abandon Jesus. They did what they were compelled to do.
And many here among us do not freely choose to be ignorant and not understand the above truths, which are plainly taught in the Scriptures and in articles on this website. You are compelled by forces you do not know or understand to follow the teachings of the great false church.
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So for those of us who are ignorant, do you have any extra smart pills that we can take?
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Ignorance of God may be a weakness, but God is calling the weak of the world. The New Covenant is being made with the ignorant of God. I don't think God calls humans because they are wise or smart or have some trumped up knowledge. Or are in a special group.
I don't know why God calls the people he does; I guess that is just another area I am ignorant in.
Dennis Vogel:
1Co 1:26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
1Co 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
1Co 1:28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
1Co 1:29 That no flesh should glory in his presence.
Mickiel:
An interesting drama is to consider God and why he does things, or even why he does not do things. In 1 Corinth. 2:16 , " For who has known the mind of the Lord?" And I really think that is not an easy thing to consider, even considering just why God has called you , if he has. In verse 26, " For " You "See" your calling;". Hey, just how do you see your calling. You know, just how is it affecting your conscious outlook about yourself? You know, do you step on a platform and now see others from a higher point of view? Oh so now God has called a weak, low based conscious individual who people once despised, only to change their conscious outlook on others to an elevated point of view in some reward show that uses knowledge as a way of determining what a new race of God would be like? Oh so now that kind of elevated awareness can glory in God's presence? And actually tell others to their face why you think they have not been called? My goodness, does the calling of God actually cause that? Why would God do something like that to you?
You know if you been called, then you should be an example of what God would do to the mind of a human and their consciousness. Our consciousness is the governor of our behavior. Hey, we can only be conscious of, those things we are conscious of. In my view, if you allow me to give it, even those who have been called must be careful how they HANDLE the calling; I mean if a person has been called by God, I think that would be quite something. I mean people just don't know God. In Job 36:26, " Behold, God is great and we know him not!"
God is different, and his affect on the human consciousness is just different. In Job 37:5 it says God does Great things which we cannot comprehend. Which means we are not conscious of those things. Look, the calling of God is just a beginning of a very long journey and we have not arrived, and can't speak as if we have. We have not even been changed from this flesh, we are still affected by outside sources. Its like getting a get out of jail card free, but your still living in the cell. Its then reduced to a conscious thing only. So the calling of God is an invasion into the consciousness first, and that is a real shock, even more than a culture shock. But why God has done this to you, is unknown. If you think not, then explain to me why God called you.
And if you cannot explain why God has called you, then you certainly have absolutely no business trying to explain why he has not called anyone. The calling of God is just a matter of time, NOT anything else.
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