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Luke 19:11-27
Mickiel:
--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on July 31, 2017, 04:32:52 PM ---How refreshing. Someone actually asking what Ray had to say.
We have many among us woefully ignorant of the Scriptures, but who want to teach us their opinions. How boring.
Ray already has done the heavy lifting on the subject of parables with numerous supporting Scriptures.
All parables are about the same thing. If you understand one parable, then you understand them all.
For those who really want to learn something, go to the 1st page of this website, just below the Lake of Fire articles, the 3rd article down is "12 Truths to Understanding His Word". Read all 12 items, but especially truths 2, 3, and 4 to obtain fundamental truths about parables.
If you can stand more truth, locate the section on more of Ray's teachings, 2nd article down is one of Ray's bible studies called Foundational Truths Feb 2008, which has a section on parables.
One other thing needed is the Holy Spirit, without which you will not understand, no matter how hard you try, for your time has not yet come.
--- End quote ---
In my view, there is absolutely nothing wrong with a believer sharing their opinion about God, Christ or the bible. And if it does not match yours, then so be it; that does not make them some kind of outcast. This site may reject them, but not Christ. I am not ashamed of my ignorance, because I know God will lovingly fix that in his time. John the Baptist did not frequent all those churches of God, he walked alone and preached and taught people in the wilderness. And I am sure his understanding was differing than the church. Paul's understanding was differing from the church. Isaiah had a far different understanding. And David's understanding was ground breaking as well.
Christ does not base his judgment of an called individual based on this site.
Dennis Vogel:
--- Quote from: Mickiel on July 31, 2017, 05:14:24 PM ---
--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on July 31, 2017, 04:32:52 PM ---How refreshing. Someone actually asking what Ray had to say.
We have many among us woefully ignorant of the Scriptures, but who want to teach us their opinions. How boring.
Ray already has done the heavy lifting on the subject of parables with numerous supporting Scriptures.
All parables are about the same thing. If you understand one parable, then you understand them all.
For those who really want to learn something, go to the 1st page of this website, just below the Lake of Fire articles, the 3rd article down is "12 Truths to Understanding His Word". Read all 12 items, but especially truths 2, 3, and 4 to obtain fundamental truths about parables.
If you can stand more truth, locate the section on more of Ray's teachings, 2nd article down is one of Ray's bible studies called Foundational Truths Feb 2008, which has a section on parables.
One other thing needed is the Holy Spirit, without which you will not understand, no matter how hard you try, for your time has not yet come.
--- End quote ---
In my view, there is absolutely nothing wrong with a believer sharing their opinion about God, Christ or the bible. And if it does not match yours, then so be it; that does not make them some kind of outcast. This site may reject them, but not Christ. I am not ashamed of my ignorance, because I know God will lovingly fix that in his time. John the Baptist did not frequent all those churches of God, he walked alone and preached and taught people in the wilderness. And I am sure his understanding was differing than the church. Paul's understanding was differing from the church. Isaiah had a far different understanding. And David's understanding was ground breaking as well.
Christ does not base his judgment of an called individual based on this site.
--- End quote ---
No, but we judge what goes on this forum to keep the piece. http://bible-truths.com/video/NoTeaching.mp4
About 15 years ago as an experiment I created a board to let anyone say anything and it turned into something very ugly with a lot of name calling, etc.
Anyone is entitled to their opinion. But if Ray has not touched on a subject then it's best to not bring it up. Else the moderators will have to click the ban button, which none of us like to do.
Mickiel:
--- Quote from: Dennis Vogel on July 31, 2017, 06:49:46 PM ---
--- Quote from: Mickiel on July 31, 2017, 05:14:24 PM ---
--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on July 31, 2017, 04:32:52 PM ---How refreshing. Someone actually asking what Ray had to say.
We have many among us woefully ignorant of the Scriptures, but who want to teach us their opinions. How boring.
Ray already has done the heavy lifting on the subject of parables with numerous supporting Scriptures.
All parables are about the same thing. If you understand one parable, then you understand them all.
For those who really want to learn something, go to the 1st page of this website, just below the Lake of Fire articles, the 3rd article down is "12 Truths to Understanding His Word". Read all 12 items, but especially truths 2, 3, and 4 to obtain fundamental truths about parables.
If you can stand more truth, locate the section on more of Ray's teachings, 2nd article down is one of Ray's bible studies called Foundational Truths Feb 2008, which has a section on parables.
One other thing needed is the Holy Spirit, without which you will not understand, no matter how hard you try, for your time has not yet come.
--- End quote ---
In my view, there is absolutely nothing wrong with a believer sharing their opinion about God, Christ or the bible. And if it does not match yours, then so be it; that does not make them some kind of outcast. This site may reject them, but not Christ. I am not ashamed of my ignorance, because I know God will lovingly fix that in his time. John the Baptist did not frequent all those churches of God, he walked alone and preached and taught people in the wilderness. And I am sure his understanding was differing than the church. Paul's understanding was differing from the church. Isaiah had a far different understanding. And David's understanding was ground breaking as well.
Christ does not base his judgment of an called individual based on this site.
--- End quote ---
No, but we judge what goes on this forum to keep the piece. http://bible-truths.com/video/NoTeaching.mp4
About 15 years ago as an experiment I created a board to let anyone say anything and it turned into something very ugly with a lot of name calling, etc.
Anyone is entitled to their opinion. But if Ray has not touched on a subject then it's best to not bring it up. Else the moderators will have to click the ban button, which none of us like to do.
--- End quote ---
Well I understand if a person is being disruptive and un peaceful, but if they have not read the volumes of Rays writing how can they know they be blamed for having crossed some site line? I don't know everything Ray wrote. Its the same with the volumes of the bible, if a new person that believes has not read the entire bible, are we to judge them on that? How we understand the bible is more important than how we understand Ray; and that is not meant to belittle Ray, he was a great teacher, but he was not Christ. I mean but its your website, if you think its best to limit knowledge here to just Rays knowledge, then that is how you see it best, and I take no issue with it; I have seen stranger things.
I used to think everyone called understood the exact same thing, but that is just not true; I think it safe to say they see the basic things the same. How do you see 1 Corinth. 12:4-11? " 4, - Now there are diversities of Gifts, but the same Spirit. And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God that works it all. But the manifestation of the spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
One person given this, another that, to some more faith, some can even heal, to others prophecy, to another interpretation of things. But all those things work by the one same spirit, dividing to every man as God wills. I can't get jealous or unbelieving if a person has a gift of discerning spirits, and I don't. Or if one sees things that my group does not. If I am in a group that wants no new knowledge, from what ever source, I think something is wrong with that; oh so we now are to stay stuck in the past and not advance in the knowledge of God? Spiritual knowledge advances beyond just what Ray taught, it does not stop with one man. It does not stop with any biblical writer, even Paul mentioned that it was his " Present knowledge" that he had, boy I can't find that scripture. But in 1Corinth. 13:12 he said now we see through a glass darkly, that means we all miss things that are true.
But anyhow, far be it from me to try and change anyone. I just don't get it, I guess that is why I have never fit in with the people of God. They just do things that I just don't understand.
Dennis Vogel:
Why No Teaching On This Forum (transcript)
You know, because sometimes these discussions get a little out of hand... basically we teach that you are not suppose to 'teach' on the forum. The main reason for that is, many times it turns into heresy... but people can't always distinguish what is or what isn't heresy. Therefore they give their opinions and if somebody reads it on our forum, they say 'well this is what they teach on Ray's forum.' Yea, but Ray doesn't teach that on Ray's forum... somebody else does and we don't always agree. It's like these disclaimers for people on television, 'not everything said here today'... or whatever.
Dave in Tenn:
The links John mentioned above.
http://bible-truths.com/twelve.htm
https://bible-truths.com/forums/index.php/topic,6452.0.html
I hope those are helpful.
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