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Who are the Real Hebrew Israelites today
octoberose:
Thank you so much for the replies . ( I don't know how but my autocorrect just wrote 'therapies' . Is that not pretty hilarious? )
Dave, you are so right that this has been robing me of my joy. How'd you know?
I don't want to just read Ray's words and accept them, I want to understand. I understood so quickly the fundamental things of this site. It was wonderful and you all know just what I mean. But this, this end times understanding, as John says God has just not given it to me yet. Oh, I can read the words but they don't seem to work for me yet. Arggh. :-[
Love Romans 15:13 Pamela! Truly the Holy Spirit is the only one who can impart God's peace, joy and hope. Everything else is counterfeit.
lareli:
I don't know about the Hebrew Israelites but the Christian democracies of America and Europe are the "Israel of God" in prophecy according to Ray.
https://bible-truths.com/forums/index.php/topic,16903.0.html
I don't know if this adds anything to this thread but just remembered a thread on this a while back so thought I'd post the link. I understand you're asking about the genetic physical Israel and not the prophetic Israel necessarily but.. I dunno.
John from Kentucky:
The Scriptural rule of two or three witnesses to establish a Scriptural Truth applies to everyone.
What are the two Scriptures that say America and Europe are the Israel of God? Just two Scriptures please.
Dave in Tenn:
--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on September 29, 2017, 12:46:40 AM ---The Scriptural rule of two or three witnesses to establish a Scriptural Truth applies to everyone.
What are the two Scriptures that say America and Europe are the Israel of God? Just two Scriptures please.
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John, I'm, sorry...but that may be one of the most foolish questions I've seen in a while. There aren't "two scriptures" that say I am typing on a computer keyboard at this moment, either. I assure you, however, that I was. America and Europe are not mentioned by name in Scripture, so one has to look at the "references" and make a judgement. That America and the Europeans make up the largest part of the history of Christendom is a no-brainer. Aside from a few exceptions (exceptions to the rule are allowed, as in some of the physical Jews of Christ's day were also part of His church, including all of the Apostles) the "Church" spread out with the Roman Empire primarily into Europe. The history from that point is pretty clear as well.
If not Europe and the US, then what "kings" have been responsible for the spread of Christendom throughout the world? Who else has said "Lord, Lord" and not done the things He said? Who else is responsible for "many wonderful works" but are cast aside because He never knew them? Who else has said the He is the Christ, but have deceived many?
I know it's not all about "kings" and governments. These things are also "symbolic" of Spiritual things that also reside in individuals. But "prophecy" is pronounced in broad terms.
HIS Spiritual church, however, comes out of that Church--the "Israel of God" in prophecy.
Dave in Tenn:
--- Quote from: octoberose on September 28, 2017, 12:00:32 AM ---Thank you so much for the replies . ( I don't know how but my autocorrect just wrote 'therapies' . Is that not pretty hilarious? )
Dave, you are so right that this has been robing me of my joy. How'd you know?
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Yes, that's funny. And I didn't "know" know...I just knew. Anytime I've considered the Revelation as (first) 'literal', and (then) symbolic of physical things, the results have been less-than-satisfying, to say the least. I couldn't work up a smidgen of joy, for example, over "streets of gold" and "gates of pearl" and strange creatures that worshipped around a throne, and other things that were supposed to "inspire" me. Forget about things that were supposed to scare the hell out of me...like a lake of fire.
Hang in there, and remember it's in looking back, we see. You just haven't made the connection completely between what you've already gone through in your faith and understanding (both good and bad) and what's in there. Those bolded verses are well-taught by Ray, and you know what they mean better than most, even if you don't know you know. I'm convinced of that.
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