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Wanda

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Re: Truth from the high priest
« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2017, 03:55:47 PM »

Hi largeli,

I'm happy to see you found peace with this. I could feel the pull it had on you, because I was going through something similar.

You had me digging my heals in for a bit, which was great really. It was  one of the most important times in the history of the world. It was our salvation unfolding,  laboring for it's  birth. I hope I never grow tired of these words.And how about those glorious prophesies. Stealth Precision.


He would not retaliate. “He was oppressed and He was afflicted, yet He opened not His mouth; He was led as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before its shearers is silent, so He opened not His mouth” (Isaiah 53:7).

Matthew 27:12 tells us that “while He was being accused by the chief priests and elders, He answered nothing.” Pilate, the Roman governor, also tried to get Him to answer, “but He answered him not one word, so that the governor marveled greatly” (Matthew 27:13-14
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Re: Truth from the high priest
« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2017, 11:02:24 AM »

Thanks Wanda.. the conclusion Iíve come to on this issue was established before posting. I believed that God can speak truth through anyone including Christians. Thereís much that God spoke to me during my time in the church. People in the church spoke things to me that I considered prophetic. After coming here to BT and being part of some very spirited discussion regarding the church, I had wondered if I should discard all the things I gained while in the church. Like I said.. I alone will be held accountable for how my spiritual house is built so I want to always test it, question it.

Ray had said or implied on many occasions that if the church teaches it, itís probably (or definitely) false. But he also said there are many wonderful truths of God taught in the church.. and that church buildings are fine for worship if itís in spirit.

So I wanted to retest that part of my house.
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Re: Truth from the high priest
« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2017, 06:42:34 PM »

Thanks Wanda.. the conclusion Iíve come to on this issue was established before posting. I believed that God can speak truth through anyone including Christians. Thereís much that God spoke to me during my time in the church. People in the church spoke things to me that I considered prophetic. After coming here to BT and being part of some very spirited discussion regarding the church, I had wondered if I should discard all the things I gained while in the church. Like I said.. I alone will be held accountable for how my spiritual house is built so I want to always test it, question it.

Ray had said or implied on many occasions that if the church teaches it, itís probably (or definitely) false. But he also said there are many wonderful truths of God taught in the church.. and that church buildings are fine for worship if itís in spirit.

So I wanted to retest that part of my house.

From my own experience I think Ray could be right.

Peter 2:4Ė8

4 As you come to him, a living stone nrejected by men but in the sight of God chosen and precious, 5 oyou yourselves like living stones are being built up as pa spiritual house, to be qa holy priesthood, rto offer spiritual sacrifices sacceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 6 For it stands in Scripture:

ďBehold, I am laying in Zion a stone,

a cornerstone chosen and precious,

and whoever believes in him will not be put to shame.Ē

7 So the honor is for you who vbelieve, but for those who vdo not believe,

ďThe stone that the builders rejected

has become the cornerstone,Ē1

8 and

ďA stone of stumbling,

and a rock of offense.Ē

May God bless and keep you in his loving spirit largeli

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Sorry, if i do not know how to best post something here.....
and where to be most appropriate to respond to what largeli's post is
relative to the topic "truth from the high priest"

Ok,...........the apostles have, a good number of times,
taken half an idea, a partial sentence in today's grammatical terms,
a whole sentence, part of an idea,
that was spoken in the old testament about something that was happening,
in context of the situation, of what was going on in this or that accounting of an event in the old testament
and, then,
quoted it in the new testament as though it was relevant to, referred to, described, supported,
something else in the new testament totally unrelated to how it was originally being said, describing,
about an event in the old testament.
Speaking, quoting exactly, and, even, referring to the prophet that said it when it related to the time and situation
at hand; being relevant and descriptive of the situation in the old testament............
taking, using, that quote,
from back at that time
and, now, saying that what it really meant,
the purpose for which it was truly said and written,
is the truth of what it means, now, at that time, in the new testament
as it relayed, as all do, in type and shadow,
to what was happening in the new testament;
relevant to Jesus Christ.

So, the apostles did that exact same time.

God uses anything, anyone, anytime,
to support, encourage, enlighten, and further the purpose of
what God in Christ in us.........IS.

Not only is all 'fair game' for this purpose
it is the 'true gain' of what the purpose of all that is written is.

Hope that made sense.....

Martin
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Re: Truth from the high priest
« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2018, 11:58:08 PM »

We might just say, see, that all the 'why' we ask,
is as Ray liked to say, often repeatedly in anyone recorded session:
"It's always just ONE Thing", "It's One thing", "It's just one thing"
"It's all just One Thing"

To bring the purpose of God's creation of life
to be, to become, what God Wills for Life to be,
to become, for all.

with, by, for, in, through,
God's Love by Christ in us the invaluable and only true Hope we have for, in, with Life
as Family  :-) ;) :)
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Re: Truth from the high priest
« Reply #25 on: February 04, 2018, 05:02:44 PM »

We might just say, seeing, that all the 'why' we ask,
is as Ray liked to say, often repeatedly in recorded sessions:
"It's always just ONE Thing", "It's One thing", "It's just one thing"
"It's all just One Thing".
As apostles would quote from the old, taking from, out of, the context in which it was relevant
and meaningful,
and applying it in the new testament,
saying that it was said for the current purpose in the new testament,
now,
with a relevance to Jesus Christ;
as though it was.... ....truer.....when applied to the Gospel
at the time the apostle pulled it out of the old testament;
reusing it for a new, fuller, truer (can we say?), spiritual purpose.
As, as if, ALL (Anything and all can be pulled out of any context)
is:
To bring the purpose of God's creation of life
to be, to become,
what God Wills for Life to be,
to become, for all.

This just brought to mind:
God works (uses, extracts, converts) ALL things to work together for God's Giving Good
for those that God Gives the ability to Love God......

It can see as if we read everything, every scripture, and communicated all else
to fit with God's Loving Truth with clear, full, understanding
we would be adding so many recognitions of God's work, the spirit of God doing the work in us,
that we would not be able to communicate effectively. 
All would start to sound, be, overly redundant for anyone to want to hear and/or read.
And, it would start to sound confusing, even.
As "of myself I can do nothing but it is the spirit of the resurrected Christ doing the work, the change, the understanding,
in us ............. even to communicate a fuller, truer, way of speaking......or........writing.
I have found this to be an issue for me, in life, enjoying the act of writing by inspiration;
if I am writing to communicate a fuller, truer, communication.
Cannot count the number of times over the past decade that I have been inspired, by a topic, an inspiration,
an insight, to write at length for the purpose of sharing it widely on a website, blog, ect
and been thwarted by the degrees, levels, and intricacies of being exact in writing to best-fit
the full, true, understanding of any one topic or point.

:-) i.e., as for example, the salutation one line below includes the words "with, in, for, by, and through"
all of which have distinct, separate, meanings.   
And, I mean to say, write, them all.
Now, that's not the most challenging of examples but speaks clearly to the point.

So, being an impossible task at each and every turn with each and everything,
what we do read must be understood and heard by God's spirit in us
which does, gives, the full, truer, understanding of any given topic or sentence
in what can be seen, more so, now, as the tool it is for God's revealing truth to us,
that the Bible, books of words, is.
It can be read as is but must be translated by the understanding that grows, develops,
and matures to be, to become, how and what we actually hear and read.
For this is the spirit in us, giving understanding to us,
as we are reading or hearing that which is spiritual.
So, as we mature that fuller, truer, clearer, understanding becomes more and more
who we are, who we are becoming, that child of God who hears their Loving Father
speak to us of the love and truth of life as we go and live through life;
ever-maturing by God's spirit doing the maturing in us -- :-) -- to mature us.

with, by, for, in, through,
God's Love by Christ in us
the invaluable and only true Hope we have for, in, with Life
as Family  :-) ;) :)

PS: Just noticed, reading, Mike's post -- yes, and as Mike is confirming.....
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