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Truth from the high priest
lareli:
Was Caiaphas not of his father the devil? In whom there is no truth?
Wanda:
I think so. He was most concerned with his position and status of power, than he was of spiritual matters. No different than religious leaders of today. They will deny the truth right before their eyes, rather than risk loosing their positions of power.
John 8:44 you are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
octoberose:
--- Quote from: largeli on November 14, 2017, 05:23:53 PM --- PS,, do you think that this high priest having lots of authority was a reason God chose
him to speak through?
I don’t know Pamela.
I’ve been thinking about this since way before I decided to post it. I have no answers only questions as to why God used Caiaphas to prophecy. I have questions about prophecy itself in light of this part of Johns gospel.
I think about Balaams donkey as you mentioned, and I also think about one of the stories where Gideon was going to fight and he overheard one of the enemies talking about a dream he had that terrified him and another of the enemies was interpreting the dream correctly. So in scripture God uses all sorts of vessels to speak His truth. But in the case of Caiaphas it’s different because Caiaphas did not mean what God meant when he spoke.
Caiaphas said something that was a deep and profound spiritual truth.. but he didn’t mean it like that. He said it as a carnal statement. Yet it’s recorded as a spiritual prophecy and a deep spiritual truth.
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I keep thinking about your post!
I don't think you can say that the high priest meant it as a carnal statement. I don't think he knew what he was saying at all. God used him. Consider that this statement came down to us. I don't think it's a leap of logic to say that these words of the high priest became known to the Jewish people. They recorded many many things. And since Caiaphas had the authority of high priest, his words were noteworthy. I can imagine that this was part of what the early Christians used to explain the Gospel to the Jewish people.
Musterseed:
Jesus had just raised Lazarus from the dead. This miracle caused a lot of excitement among the people and the members of the Sanhedrin were worried that the people would believe that Jesus
was indeed the Messiah , and would continue to perform miracles and the people would believe.They were worried that the Romans would come and destroy them so they pressured Caiaphas, who was one of authority that the people would listen to..But the Pharisees believed in the resurrection so they knew Jesus was from God, so this had nothing to do with the resurrection, the Sadducees however did not believe in anything but themselves, power and wealth and the Pharisees were no better , they all colluded to kill Jesus even trying to get Him to incriminate himself for blasphemy by saying He was the Son Of God, that’s why Jesus kept saying”YOU
say that I am”.
Mark 15:2,,,,Are you King of the Jews asked Pilate?
“ YOU have said so, replied Jesus”
John 19:21,,,The chief priests of the Jews protested to Pilate. Do not write the king of the Jews
But that this man CLAIMED to be the King of the Jews.
These Pharisees and Sadducees are the same lot that today in these modern times, sanctify
And purify themselves in the Bohemian Grove. Church/ Gov. IMO
I believe God used Caiaphas because He does not want the people to believe. It’s not time yet..
I am new to all of this so please feel free to correct me. I watch in wonderment as Our God uses all kinds of donkeys to speak.😂
All Praise and Glory to Our Lord And Saviour Jesus Christ .Amen
octoberose:
"But the Pharisees believed in the resurrection so they knew Jesus was from God"
Hi Pamela,
I don't think the Pharisees knew Jesus was from God at all. Mark 23 -45 As all the people were listening, Jesus said to his disciples, 46 “Beware of the experts in the law. They like walking around in long robes, and they love elaborate greetings in the marketplaces and the best seats in the synagogues and the places of honor at banquets. 47 They devour widows’ property, and as a show make long prayers. They will receive a more severe punishment.” He later called the Pharisees white washed tombs. They were as blinded as anyone else. And Paul was a pharisee and he did not believe Jesus was from God, until He showed up and confronted Paul.
Caiaphas words were true. It's later the Jews would realize what he said was prophecy and being carried out right in front of them. But since the early church prospered I don't think it was much later till the truth of this was known. Being the High Priest was a very big deal- that's why he was chosen to say those words.
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