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Dave in Tenn:
Rev 12:10  And I heard a great voice in heaven, which said: Now is there deliverance, and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the dominion of his Messiah: because the Accuser of our brethren is cast out, who accused them day and night before our God.
Rev 12:11  And they overcame him, because of the blood of the Lamb, and because of the word of their testimony: and they loved not their life, even to death.

And they overcame him.  Who is him?  The accuser of our brethren.

Accuse

κατήγορος
katēgoros
kat-ay'-gor-os
From G2596 and G58; against one in the assembly, that is, a complainant at law; specifically Satan: - accuser.


How did they overcome him?  They overcame his accusations by the word of their testimony.

Noting:  One definition of the word "overcame"  is:  when one is arraigned or goes to law, to win the case, maintain one’s cause.

Picture a case against a brother in the assembly.  The accuser accuses the brethren day and night.  But they overcome/win in court by the blood of the Lamb and the Word of their Testimony.

What does the blood of Jesus have to do with overcoming the accuser?

Rev 1:4  John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;
Rev 1:5  And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood.

Is every placard carrying street preacher or door-to-door evangelist giving the word of their testimony to overcome the accuser?  I think a fair number are working FOR the accuser.  That's the testimony many are giving.

And a spiritual match for this verse is, to my mind:

Rom 10:8  But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
Rom 10:9  That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10  For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Rom 10:11  For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

And that is hardly the end of spiritual matches.
   
 

Dave in Tenn:
My favorite "dope to hope" testimony  when I was a young man was given by a fellow named Mike Warnke.  I bought his records, played them for my sunday school class.  Turns out he was a charlatan and little to nothing of his "story" was true.  He came to mind thinking about this.  The Devil accuses, those who overcame/overcome do that against his accusations.  The Great Judge of the Universe does not allow "perjury" to stand. 

ZekeSr:

--- Quote from: Ricky on January 10, 2018, 02:01:41 AM ---He saves who He wants when He wants. Where does it say that in the book.
--- End quote ---

John 6:44 No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws (drags) him. And I will raise him up on the last day.

Seems pretty cut and dried if you ask me.

Mike

lareli:
Dave I see what the blood of the lamb is and how the blood of the lamb pertains to them overcoming the accuser.

But is the meaning of “testimony” in this verse the same thing Paul was talking about when he said in Acts that Jesus told him, “and get thee quickly out of Jerusalem: for they will not receive thy testimony concerning me” as Extol pointed out?

John and ZekeSr, I agree with both of your replies but “getting saved” is not the topic here.. the question is, what is “the word of their testimony”? What does “testimony” mean here..

Joel:
The way I see it, The Lord Jesus Christ came to do the will of the Father.
He said that he was doing the will of the Father over and over, even though the vast majority of the people thought otherwise.
If we are being lead of the Holy Spirit and our gold is to please the heavenly Father in everything we do, Jesus being our best example ever, than why sweat at all the little details?

Joel

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