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Prune Soleiado:
Hello Bob,

I’m thinking about this verse:
Genesis 1:26 « Then God said, “Let us MAKE mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

The verb « to make » here is the translation of the Hebrew ASAH ( Strong 06213). Ray taught us that this verb means to make something out of something that already exists, as opposed to BARA (Strong 01254) (Gen 1:27, Gen 2:23) which means to create something that didn’t existed before.
So when God created humanity in His image there was already the material, the basis, the foundations. Before Adam was FORMED (Yatsar, Strong 03335) or established in a spiritual way, there was already humanity on earth, but it was composed of unwise men, no close relationship to God. The fact that humanity  needs to be in the image of God means to me that men must be wise so that they can have a real and close relationship with God abd then He can model it (yatsar, Gen 2:7).

The idea is: humanity already was inhabiting earth: ASAH
Then God decides to create a new man taken from this unwise humanity by making this man all new, wiser with a new heart: BARA
And when the man is wise, with a new spirit, God starts to teach him and model him: YATSAR, so that Adam becomes a living soul which is able to cultivate the Eden, which is spiritual.

It reminds me of a post I read yesterday on this forum. It was talking about the work of the goldsmith refining silver. Here’s the link:
https://bible-truths.com/forums/index.php/topic,14337.0.html

We are a soiled piece of silver, then God cleanse us with the fire of His Judgement, and at the end we piece of silver are so pure God can see His own image in us.  Big process.

Prune Soleiado:
About Eve: It says in Gen 2:22 that God formed Eve by taking one of Adam’s rib.
The hebrew word for « rib » is tsela‘ (Strong 06763) which signifies also the sides of a door, or the sides of a chamber( in a temple’s structure), or the sides of an arch.
Eve is not yet wise in the eyes of God, she’s not in the temple of God. And like Adam God took her out of her human foolish position to bring her to His wisdom, and we know Adam, like Our Lord Jesus with His Church, has the prerogative to render his wife pure, unblemished. God brings Eve to Adam after He has fashioned her also, she has come by the same process as Adam. She’s wise now and Adam recognizes it by saying « This now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh ».

Just my humble opinion.. Hope I’m kinda clear. I don’t mean to confuse anyone 😉

Blessed be God, Father of Our Lord Jesus Christ.

Dennis Vogel:
But let's not forget they both sinned

Prune Soleiado:
Hello Dennis,
Yes They both sinned just like we behoove to fall down from our own overproud constructed heavens, work in progress, we must learn to reject evil in our hearts.
Romans 7:13  « Did that which is good, then, become death to me? By no means! Nevertheless, in order that sin might be recognized as sin, it used what is good to bring about my death, so that through the commandment sin might become utterly sinful »
We MUST go through a time where the beast takes a total control of our hearts, even though we are converted. Ray talked about the greek verb « DIE » which means « to behoove to », « to be necessary ». Jesus reminded His disciple of the necessity of those dark times before He comes back again in the end of times. This necessity is for the accomplishment of the Will of God.
So Adam and Eve sinned like we are to sin, just to learn how to reject sin.
Esaiah 7:15-16:
« He will be eating curds and honey when he knows enough to reject the wrong and choose the right,
for before the boy knows enough to reject the wrong and choose the right, the land of the two kings you dread will be laid waste. »

John from Kentucky:
Some of us have the understanding that the Adam and Eve story is not literal but a spiritual story chock full of deep spiritual truths.  Adam is the Hebrew word for mankind.  Eve is the mother of all living. But not all have this understanding.  God guides all.

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