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Literally and Physically True?
ML:
Well, as He is, so are we! 😁
Musterseed:
Hallelujah, Our Lord Reigns
lareli:
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on August 25, 2018, 12:19:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: lareli on August 23, 2018, 03:11:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on August 17, 2018, 01:44:27 AM ---My psychology may well be affected by scriptural accounts. But when I am well and truly, really dead, no psychology will save me from that state.
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When I am well and truly dead I won’t care about being saved from that state.
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When I am well and truly dead, I'll be incapable of apathy.
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Incapable of sin too.. why do we need to be saved from death then? What are we being saved from? We won’t be suffering.. we won’t be anything.. can we say that we will even exist when we’re dead? How can something that doesn’t even exist be saved?
Wanda:
--- Quote from: lareli on August 27, 2018, 10:52:18 AM ---
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on August 25, 2018, 12:19:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: lareli on August 23, 2018, 03:11:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on August 17, 2018, 01:44:27 AM ---My psychology may well be affected by scriptural accounts. But when I am well and truly, really dead, no psychology will save me from that state.
--- End quote ---
When I am well and truly dead I won’t care about being saved from that state.
--- End quote ---
When I am well and truly dead, I'll be incapable of apathy.
--- End quote ---
Incapable of sin too.. why do we need to be saved from death then? What are we being saved from? We won’t be suffering.. we won’t be anything.. can we say that we will even exist when we’re dead? How can something that doesn’t even exist be saved?
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I'll let paul speak.
1 Corinthians 15:12-31
12 But if it is preached that Christ has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead?
13 If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised.
14 And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith.
15 More than that, we are then found to be false witnesses about God, for we have testified about God that he raised Christ from the dead. But he did not raise him if in fact the dead are not raised.
16 For if the dead are not raised, then Christ has not been raised either.
17 And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins.
18 Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ are lost.
19 If only for this life we have hope in Christ, we are of all people most to be pitied
. 20 But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep.
21 For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man.
22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.
And no matter wheater we believe or not, its God's will that we die, are truely dead, and are litterally raised alive again.
Jeses said...
John 6:38 King James Version (KJV)
38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
Jeremiah 29:11
11 For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the LORD, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.
His will can never be stopped.
Isaiah 14:27 New International Version (NIV)
27 For the Lord Almighty has purposed,and who can thwart him?
His hand is stretched out, and who can turn it back?
Job 42:2 New International Version (NIV)
2 “I know that you can do all things;
no purpose of yours can be thwarted.
This can be believed ot not but it can't be stopped.
Wanda:
Even though I'm perplexed by your questions I decided to take a stab at them.
--- Quote ---Incapable of sin too.. why do we need to be saved from death then?
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Can you raise yourself? Can you rid yourself of sin? Even those who were resurrected by Jesus still were with sin and had to die again. because the wages of sin are death. They will be raised again, to be transformed into new and glories bodies where the power of death holds no power. This is when God's creation of man is complete.
--- Quote ---What are we being saved from?
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The state of death itself, so we can continue our lives in the way God purposed from the beginning of creation. Death is just one step in the process of life, it is not in Gods plan or will that we continue on in the state.of nothingness.
--- Quote ---We won’t be suffering.. we won’t be anything.
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All that we are now, will go back to the one who gives life, for safe keeping until we are raised to continue our lives.
You will be in God's memory, wheather you choose to believe it or not.
This is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day" (John 6:39).
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