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Literally and Physically True?
John from Kentucky:
--- Quote from: lareli on September 10, 2018, 04:06:04 PM ---
--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on September 04, 2018, 01:35:57 PM ---The life, death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus is literally and spiritually true in all aspects as described in the New Testament.
Everything and all salvation hangs on it.
Which is why Satan attacks the truth and in his subtle ways tries to cast doubts on the truth.
All he wants is for his minions to cast the slightest doubts and thereby overthrow the spiritually weak who are not the Elect. Of course, Satan has no power over the Elect.
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Doubting is part of the process of knowing. Satan’s attacks are necessary.. for overthrowing some and for strengthening others.
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Not so. Jesus said, "You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."
When Jesus' Spirit gives you the truth, it does not come with doubts. You know with a certainty when you are plugged into the real thing. It is called Faith and is a gift from God. You got it or you don't.
lareli:
--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on September 10, 2018, 10:31:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: lareli on September 10, 2018, 04:06:04 PM ---
--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on September 04, 2018, 01:35:57 PM ---The life, death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus is literally and spiritually true in all aspects as described in the New Testament.
Everything and all salvation hangs on it.
Which is why Satan attacks the truth and in his subtle ways tries to cast doubts on the truth.
All he wants is for his minions to cast the slightest doubts and thereby overthrow the spiritually weak who are not the Elect. Of course, Satan has no power over the Elect.
--- End quote ---
Doubting is part of the process of knowing. Satan’s attacks are necessary.. for overthrowing some and for strengthening others.
--- End quote ---
Not so. Jesus said, "You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."
When Jesus' Spirit gives you the truth, it does not come with doubts. You know with a certainty when you are plugged into the real thing. It is called Faith and is a gift from God. You got it or you don't.
--- End quote ---
I said ‘part of the process’. The process of coming to the truth begins before you know the truth... *obviously.
Would you be here if you hadn’t first doubted what the Christian Church had taught you? Do you think Satan wanted you to doubt what the Christian Church had taught you?
Besides I don’t doubt the truth. All of scripture is true. I just don’t know which parts are literal/physical versus spiritual. And I don’t know if that matters. Maybe you know. I do not.
Musterseed:
Aren't the Christian churches the synagogues of Satan? Don’t they froth at the mouth
to get people to have faith IN Jesus Christ ? Because if you don’t believe IN Christ you will
remain in your sins and be condemned to hell. Isn’t that what they preach?
Why? Because they dispise God’s Word, Truth, Jesus is truth and Jesus is faith.
It is my understanding that this faith we have belongs to Jesus and He gives us a measure , maybe
just the size of a mustard seed but this little bit of faith
is through the Divine Holy Spirit as a gift.
Saved by Grace THROUGH Faith , THROUGH Jesus. There are many scriptures on Faith and in my humble and sincere opinion I believe there is a big difference in having faith IN Christ and having
the faith OF Christ. I believe it increases when we seek the truth more and more. Is that what
the parable of the bags of gold is about. To invest The gold wisely , keep digging , turn His five
bags of gold into ten and even get what the lazy and wicked had. Anyway , about doubting.
We all know the near story of Doubting Thomas. John 19-29.
The scriptures make it a point to tell us the doors were locked both times that Jesus appeared.
Reminding us and proving to the deciples that He is Spirit and can appear out of thin air.😮😃
But now He is also flesh and speaks, “Peace be with You” proving Himself yet again, but
Jesus knows Thomas still doubts because Jesus reads his thoughts of course and obliges Thomas to feel His flesh proving once again that He Jesus is real. Thomas was not with the apostles the week
that they received the Holy Spirit. Did Thomas (Didymus, which means twin, or double) receive
the Holy Spirit when Jesus said “stop doubting and believe)?
28- Thomas said” my Lord and my God”
29- Then Jesus told him” Because you have seen me, you have believed; but Blessed are those
who have not seen and yet have believed”
I have a question, who does Thomas represent?
James 1:5-9
If any of you lacks wisdom, you should ask God who gives generously to all without finding
fault and it will be given to you. But when you ask, you must believe and not doubt, because
the one who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind. That person
should not expect to receive anything from the Lord. Such a person is double -minded and
unstable in all they do.
James 2:5
Listen, my dear brothers and sisters: Has Not God chosen those who are poor in the eyes of the world to be RICH IN FAITH and to inherit the Kingdom He promised those who LOVE HIM.
We are very Blessed here at BT to have this sacred knowledge. We may not all have the same
measure of faith but we do Love Him. It is my belief that we are here because this is where God has planted us whether we like it or not. Our ways are not His ways. We are being remoulded on the potters wheel and it hurts like heck at times but until we are a finished , shiny, unbreakable
pot passed through the hot kiln , we will endure. May God be with us and have mercy on His
new creation through this process. All Praise and All Glory to Our Dear Lord and Savior God Almighty,,,,,, Jesus Christ. He is all that matters. My Love to all of you , Pamela
cjwood:
Yep - Here is the YouTube video: https://youtu.be/PT7CANf88VY
thank you dennis for posting this video by ray. with the state of things in this country and in the world we are living in it helps tremendously to know how believers in Christ are to apply the two different types of love.
claudia
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