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Welcome to BTF Al☺

Others might have a different view, but this is my understanding to your question, after studying  Rays teachings.

All the days of our fleshly existence  we are fighting against these powers the apostle Paul spoke of, and none which we have power over, in and of ourselves.

Ephesians 6:12

12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

Corinthians 10:4-5

4 The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds.5 We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.

Ephesians 6:10-11:

' Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes."

Thank you all for your warm welcome. Indeed, it is a great feeling to be in a place where people are seeking God's truth and are willing to share what Father have revealed to them. I know that unless God opens my eyes and ears I will not understand.  But I do want to thank you all for your dedicated work to shout the truth about our Merciful God that will save everyone of His childreen in due time.

Dave, you wrote: "Ask yourself what is being "restrained".  When you answer that, it may become apparent who or what is doing the "restraining".

Please forgive me if I am wrong and blind!  - I think what is/was being restrained in me was the knowledge/understanding that the man of sin is not someone outside of me. That the man of sin (me) is/was sitting in God's Temple (which Temple I am)  - and that the falling away is part of the process to be able to see the true beast that I am.  However, someone or something is/was doing the restraining so that I could not see that truth -until he is taken out of the way.  I was taught it was the Holy Spirit.  But I don't know

2 Thessalonians 2:7 (NKJV)  For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. [/u]

Something or someone is restraining so that people cannot see the truth?  Could it be and evil spirit from the Lord"

Thank you all



Dave in Tenn:
You are far from blind, Al. 

I just know this.  It wasn't/isn't lawlessness which is being restrained.  It is/was "the mystery (secret) of lawlessness".   And the one that had/has to be taken away was/is me.

Men will continue under this "mystery of lawlessness" operating within until they don't any more.  They will continue to sit on the throne until they are removed from it. 


Thanks Dave and Al,

Dave, Sometimes your understanding helps me rest in my own, and other times you make me look further inward on a matter.☺

Thanks, Dave.

That makes sense. I wondered about that phrase "Mystery of lawlessness" .  Lawlessness is pretty obvious - we see it every day and everywhere. All you have to do is turn the news on.  So how can lawlessness be a mystery or a secret unless it appears as something else? - lawlessness that appears as righteousness!! And the words of Jesus just hit me:  Luke 11:35 (NKJV)  Therefore take heed that the light which is in you is not darkness.

I think that is exactly what the religious system is all about - that is what I was/am - the mystery of lawlessness - darkness that appears as light that is within me.


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