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Musterseed:
Amen , Michelle,
Good morning family.
1John 5:19
We know that we are from God, and the whole world lives in the power of the evil one.
20,,and we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so
that we may know, Him who is true and we are in Him who is True, in His Son Jesus Christ.
He is the True God and eternal(aonian) life.
1 Peter 5:8
Though you have not seen Him, you love Him. Though you do not now see Him you believe in
Him and rejoice with joy that is in expressible and filled with Glory, obtaining the outcome
of your faith, the salvation of your souls.
Peter 1:10-12
Concerning this salvation,the prophets who prophesied about the grace that was to be yours,
searched and inquired carefully, inquiring what person or time the Spirit of Christ in them was
indicating when He predicted the sufferings of Christ and the subsequent glories 12 , it was revealed to them that they were serving not themselves but you,in the things that have now
been announced to you through those who preached the good news (gospel) to you, by the
Holy Spirit sent from heaven, things into which angels long to look.
I was reading Strong Milk Gospel of the Kingdom transcript and Ray said. In Peter it says, speaking
Of the chosen.
“YOU are the Gospel of the Kingdom, the gospel, good news, the Kingdom that will Bless
All the nations.
From 1Peter1-25 is awesome scripture. ( Peter is Wanda’s favourite apostle by the way🤫)
All flesh is like grass
And all it’s glory like the flower of the grass
The grass withers and the flower falls,but the word of the Lord remains forever.
And this word ,, Is the good news that was preached to YOU. ❤️
In Christ, Pamela
Musterseed:
I believe the mystery of the Kindgom is the Kingdom itself, The Kingdom of the Heavens.
Who are the Heavens???😁
Wanda:
--- Quote ---believe the mystery of the Kindgom is the Kingdom itself, The Kingdom of the Heavens.
Who are the Heavens???😁
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Yes Pamela I see that too.😁
Ray didn't teach about "The gospel" he taught about the gospel of the kingdom. I believe he did so because that is the gospel. Jesus preached the good news of the Kingdom of God for his entire short ministry because that is why he was sent.
(Luke 4:43 )"But he said, "I must preach the good news of the kingdom of God to the other towns also, because that is why I was sent."
Matthew 4:23 (KJV)
23 And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people.
Its a mystery because only the elect will understand, as Ray points out in his teaching on the Gospel of the Kindom. When he said most have not heard the Gospel today, I now understand what he meant.
Eph 6:19 And pray for me, that utterance may be given to me, that I may open my mouth boldly to make known the mystery of the gospel,
There are subsets of the gospel of the kingdom, such as salvation but to understand the complete message, we have to know the Gospel of the Kingdom. Christians know enough of this Gospel to qualify as citizens of the Kingdom, but most do not know enough to really understand the big picture.
The Apostle Paul cleared up my confusion on the gospel being preached today.
Romans 10
:9 If you declare with your mouth, Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.
11 As Scripture says, Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame.
12 For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile's same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him,
13 for, Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
14 How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them?
15 And how can anyone preach unless they are sent? As it is written: How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!
The ones being called don't need to understand the mystery of the gospel, they need only believe Jesus is Lord and that his father raised him from the dead, and one day they will be raised too.
Musterseed:
Col.1:27
To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery
among the gentiles.
John 8:31
Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on Him. If you continue in my word,
then are you my deciplies indeed.
Rev.3:4
Thou has a few names even in Sardis, which have not defiled their garments,
and shall walk with me in white, for they are worthy.
The Elect are the True Jews
Obad.21, And SAVIOURS shall come up on Mt. Zion to judge the Mt.of Esau( them)
and the Kingdom shall be the Lords
Isaiah 40:31
Yet those who wait for the Lord will gain new strength.
They will mount up with wings like eagles.
They will run and not get tired, they will walk and not become weary.
And so many more. But yes Wanda your right , it’s all about the Kingdom
Heavenly Jerusalem, it’s Spiritual, a High Calling to Gods New Government.
Rev.14:3
And they were singing a new song before the throne,and before the four living creatures and before the elders. No one could learn that song except the 144;000 who had been redeemed from the earth. Etc.
Eph.4:3,,,, Keep the unity 😊
Spiritual Israel of God
In Christ,,, Pamela
Dennis Vogel:
--- Quote from: zvezda on November 19, 2018, 12:27:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dennis Vogel on November 19, 2018, 06:22:52 AM ---I subscribe to three YouTube channels that originate in Mainland China and that's how they publish, using VPN. And most businesses in China that sell outside of China are allowed to use VPN.
"Chinese citizens still use VPNs, but getting their hands on them can be difficult, and they risk finding themselves on the wrong side of the law for using one. ... After all, using a VPN isn't actually illegal in China. However, that doesn't mean you won't run into any trouble if you have one." Jun 4, 2018 (Google).
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Trust me on this -- no one in China runs into trouble just by using VPN to browser any websites. The ones who run into trouble are the ones who use VPN to create trouble to the gov't. You won't be put in jail as long as you leave the gov't alone. But I will stop here since it will get political.
--- Quote from: Dennis Vogel on November 19, 2018, 06:22:52 AM ---But now it occurs to me that "shall be preached in all the world." does not say "in every country." If God said "preached in every nation" or "published in all the world" things would be a lot easier. But 'preached' is more personal and implies person to person or a single person to many people.
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If you read other translations, it actually says "preached to all the nations." The word "ethnos" (1484) is used in Matthew 24:14, Mark 13:10 and Luke 24:47. But some people argue that "ethnos" could mean a race, not nation. I consider Ray was and still is preaching to the whole world, he's gone but his materials are not.
1484. ethnos
Strong's Concordance
ethnos: a race, a nation, pl. the nations (as distinct from Isr.)
Original Word: ἔθνος, ους, τό
Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter
Transliteration: ethnos
Phonetic Spelling: (eth'-nos)
Definition: a race, a nation, the nations (as distinct from Israel)
Usage: a race, people, nation; the nations, heathen world, Gentiles.
--- Quote from: Dennis Vogel on November 19, 2018, 06:22:52 AM ---And this is far-fetched at best, but the entire world is covered by satellite TV signals. I know bootleg satellite systems are a good business in Iran and other counties. So every second there are many Christian channels beaming the Gospel to the entire world without realizing they are quoting bible verses that include the real Gospel.
And short-wave radio still has a good number of Christian stations. Short-wave easily covers the world.
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One thing that's different between the internet and TV/radio is that once you publish something on the internet, it's available as a witness 24/7/365. While each TV/radio program only lasts for hours, once it ends you can't watch/listen to them any more unless you record the program. So I consider the only way for the gospel to be preached in the all nations as a witness 24/7/365 is through the internet.
--- Quote from: Dennis Vogel on November 19, 2018, 06:22:52 AM ---It's 3 AM so I'm not at my best but perhaps the Gospel is nothing more than "God loves all of us and all will be saved and welcome in His kingdom?"
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That's also what I am thinking. The gospel is just the usual stuff that we have already heard -- repentance, forgiveness, universal salvation etc. Even thought it could be simple as that, these are still a mystery to the church people, that's why "mystery of the gospel."
In Mark chapter 3, Jesus had to first open the disciples minds before telling them what will be preached to all nations. If it's not something mysterious, why would Jesus need to open their minds first? -
Luke 24:45 Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures.
Luke 24:46 He told them, "This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day,
Luke 24:47 and repentance for the forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
By looking at every occurrence of the word "mystery" in the NT, it may show what the mystery is about.
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All interesting - Mystery is mentioned 22 times in the NT. All of them also interesting.
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