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Johnny70:
Wanda,
When you look seriously at this obviously hopeless planet, we see humans with the nature and characteristics that they were given (Jeremiah 17:9 King James Version - "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?) and being driven relentlessly by spiritual powers in high places catalyzed to even greater wickedness. Ephesians 6:12 King James Version - "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places". Then the outcome is described perfectly in your comment - "Why should we expect things would be any different in this time filled with so much evil. Still it angers me."
John
Johnny70:
Wanda,
One other important description of our current world that Paul was quite adamite about, 2 Timothy 3:1-9 Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
3 And this know thou, that in the last days there shall come perilous times,
2 for men shall be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, evil-speakers, to parents disobedient, unthankful, unkind,
3 without natural affection, implacable, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, not lovers of those who are good,
4 traitors, heady, lofty, lovers of pleasure more than lovers of God,
5 having a form of piety, and its power having denied; and from these be turning away,
6 for of these there are those coming into the houses and leading captive the silly women, laden with sins, led away with desires manifold,
7 always learning, and never to a knowledge of truth able to come,
8 and, even as Jannes and Jambres stood against Moses, so also these do stand against the truth, men corrupted in mind, disapproved concerning the faith;
9 but they shall not advance any further, for their folly shall be manifest to all, as theirs also did become.
Wanda:
--- Quote ---I see you mentioned some of the verses I listed, but have not seen anyone try to tie the two concepts together, birth of a child and the sudden destruction yet. Or maybe I missed it.
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I don't tie them together. In 1Th 5:3 I see to many variables to be settled in any clear understanding at this time. I here lots of talk about peace, with many in the US thinking Trump is going to accomplish this durring his time in office, but I'm also seeing things that could prevent such an outcome.
ML if you include these scriptures I think you'll see this reference to the pain of childbirth, and the pain we experience in this world to be similar, because after this is behind us we will only focus on the joy that replaces any and all pain we endured.
John 16
21 A woman giving birth to a child has pain because her time has come; but when her baby is born she forgets the anguish because of her joy that a child is born into the world.
22 So with you: Now is your time of grief, but I will see you again and you will rejoice, and no one will take away your joy.
23 In that day you will no longer ask me anything. Very truly I tell you, my Father will give you whatever you ask in my name.
24 Until now you have not asked for anything in my name. Ask and you will receive, and your joy will be complete.
33 “I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world.”
ML:
I was thinking of this like a pregnancy. Sure, destruction and pain have always existed, but now it is increasing exponentially. The closer you get to the birthing of a child, the more and increasing pain there is.
Wanda:
--- Quote ---was thinking of this like a pregnancy. Sure, destruction and pain have always existed, but now it is increasing exponentially. The closer you get to the birthing of a child, the more and increasing pain there is.
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Yes, but child birth does not culminate in total destruction, does it? I don't believe the end of this age does either.
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