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End Time Prophecies
AwesomeSavior:
Wanda... since you don't believe that a literal mark was given unto those who lamented the abominations of Jerusalem in Ezekiel chapter 9, do you therefore believe any of that chapter happened literally around 2600 years ago?
indianabob:
In the previous chapter of Ezek. we find in 8:4 the following explanation.
Is it not true that this was all a vision of future events, a prophesy?
Bob
Eze 8:3 And he put forth the form of an hand, and took me by a lock of mine head; and the spirit lifted me up between the earth and the heaven, and brought me in the visions of God to Jerusalem, to the door of the inner gate that looketh toward the north; where was the seat of the image of jealousy, which provoketh to jealousy.
Eze 8:4 And, behold, the glory of the God of Israel was there, according to the vision that I saw in the plain.
Wanda:
To me these are clearly visions. In chapterrs 9 as Ezekiel is being shown future events.that would happen when the armies of Babylon destroy the city in 586 B.C. killing the people without God's divine mark. So yes, I believe the event actually happened.
Does Ezekiel visually experience God's Glory at the time of the vision? I'm inclined to think he did, but the things he was shown, were of the future, he was possibly seeing in his mind.
We know from scripture God's Glory is something that could be seen in the temple and in other places and times as well. Being able to see future events as God can, would I think, only be possible in a divine vision from God.
In Kings 8:10-12 This is an example of being able to see Gods Glory in real time.
It happened that when the priests came from the holy place, the cloud filled the house of the Lord, so that the priests could not stand to minister because of the cloud, for the glory of the Lord filled the house of the Lord,"
And this to me, is a vision of his Glory from a future time, that God was showing Ezekiel, by way of a vision.
Ezekiel 10:4
Then the glory of the Lord went up from the cherub to the threshold of the temple, and the temple was filled with the cloud and the court was filled with the brightness of the glory of the Lord,"
Wanda:
Dean-
If God's chosen literally bear a physical mark, wouldn't we all be able to see ours? If not, I suppose we are not one of his chosen or the mark is not actually a literal one.
AwesomeSavior:
Obviously, this writing from Ezekiel occurred before there were spiritually chosen Jews known as the Bride of Christ. Thus, I have no problem believing Ezekiel 9 happened literally all those years before Jesus walked the Earth, but of course that specific chapter is now spiritual along with the rest of the Bible. However, the natural occured(s) first.
Never before in history has the technology existed to implant or microchip so that anyone or anything can be traced and recorded. Have we now arrived, or about to arrive, at that moment in time? Or are these news reports "strong delusion" from God upon religious babylonians just to keep them blinded with their literal mindsets of Revelation?
Regarding events future, I don't know exactly the circumstances God is going to use to wrap up this literal eon before the return of the Lord Jesus, but in my estimation it is worth watching and observing so that I can be "wise as serpents but gentle as doves".
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