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Wanda:
There is so much symbolism tied up in this wedding narrative, where Jesus performed his first miracle and turned water into wine, but it's not possible to include them all in a comment. However, I'll try to summarize some important aspects
For Jews, the marriage covenant symbolically represents the covenant between God and his people, and has very significant meaning to our understanding of the relationship between Christ and the Church today.
There is symbolism for the calling out of the physical nation of Israel, the sacrifice of the Messiah, and the drawing out of people who would make up the body of the Church. This wedding correlates to mankind’s redemption. It shows that Christ is pivotal to the plan of salvation.
The wedding depicts God's covenant in progress. Running out of wine alludes to the Old Covenant animal sacrifices coming to an end, and the new wine portrays the new covenant that the Church partakes of.
Reading the account in John 2:1-11 every detail of this wedding has great significance, from the invitation to the wedding, to the purification vessels.
It was not a coincidence that the water Jesus transformed came from jars used for ceremonial washing. The water signified the Jewish system of purification, and Jesus replaced it with pure wine, representing his spotless blood that would wash away our sins.
indianabob:
Good day Lareli,
Why invent and supply to mankind an edible food that can be fermented into 10% alcohol? ::)
Well, I suppose it could lead to discernment of good and evil, based upon learning to understand cause and effect. After all God did lead Eve and Adam into the center of the garden paradise to taste the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. So I must assume that God intends for us to be tested and learn from our various experiences.
The scripture teaches that someday we will be judging angels so it would seem to follow that we need to learn righteous judgment to a small degree in this life if we ever expect to mature. Alcohol can also be used as a disinfectant to cleanse a wound and wine can be converted into vinegar to enhance the taste of other foods. It is a matter of practicing sound judgment and we often miss the target so we have to expect to practice more. There are many opportunities in life to learn "moderation".
God put in front of us many experiences that can teach and we need to learn about evil results so that we can more readily appreciate good results. Yes life can be hard, but that is what our creator put before us for our eventual benefit.
Indiana Bob
--- Quote from: lareli on January 25, 2019, 04:51:29 PM ---“Drugs” is an interesting word. Propaganda has turned “drugs” into a “bad” word. But alcohol is a drug, and no one will dispute that fact.
That means Jesus was a drug supplier.
Not only is alcohol a drug.. it is the most dangerous and destructive drug ever known to man. Alcohol is involved in more violent crimes, rapes, murders, robberies, spousal/child abuse, and divorce, than any other drug.. yet Jesus supplied barrels of it. “The good stuff” too, not just grape juice.
Why? Honest question..
--- End quote ---
Dave in Tenn:
Bob said much of what I was thinking, and better. But I'll tack a bit on.
There's a "sweet spot" in consuming alcohol that diminishes inhibitions just enough to allow people to let down their natural guard and worries and enjoy the company of others. But in many people, and especially when over-consumed, this reduction in self-control reveals aspects of character that should be self-controlled. Selfishness, violence, fear, hate, aggression. In these ways, it is a parable of Holy Spirit. Who knows what resides deep in the hearts of men? He does, and he shows it to us as we are prepared to see it.
That is the working of the grace of God in our lives and His gifts to us in like manner but more-so than barrels of fermented grape juice at a wedding.
"Be not drunk with wine, but be filled with Holy Spirit."
Wanda:
Well Lareli, once again I fall short on understanding the simplicity of your question. When will I learn🤔
lareli:
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on January 26, 2019, 02:28:16 PM ---Bob said much of what I was thinking, and better. But I'll tack a bit on.
There's a "sweet spot" in consuming alcohol that diminishes inhibitions just enough to allow people to let down their natural guard and worries and enjoy the company of others. But in many people, and especially when over-consumed, this reduction in self-control reveals aspects of character that should be self-controlled. Selfishness, violence, fear, hate, aggression. In these ways, it is a parable of Holy Spirit. Who knows what resides deep in the hearts of men? He does, and he shows it to us as we are prepared to see it.
That is the working of the grace of God in our lives and His gifts to us in like manner but more-so than barrels of fermented grape juice at a wedding.
"Be not drunk with wine, but be filled with Holy Spirit."
--- End quote ---
I don’t disagree but I find it incredibly interesting that the single most destructive drug known to man is a parable of the Holy Spirit.
Makes me wonder if, in this context, alcohol as a naturally occurring drug is also representative of all the less harmful naturally occurring mind altering substances.
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