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Dennis Vogel:

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--- Quote from: Musterseed on November 29, 2018, 10:16:12 PM ---I just read an article that for the nativity scene this year, the vatican is shipping in
700 tons of sand and international artists from all over the world to sculpt it .😂😂😂



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There is a Pakistani woman in Pakistan named Asia Bibi. She is, strangely enough, Catholic. In 2010, she was sentenced to death and fined $1,100 for the major crime of blasphemy, because she was allegedly critical of Mohammed. She appealed her case in 2018 while spending eight years in prison. The Supreme Court bravely overturned the decision for a gross lack of evidence with indications that her accusers lied. There have been major protests in Pakistan over the Supreme Court decision, as the people want her hung.

Asia has requested asylum in the U.K., but has been turned down because: “the UK government had concerns that her moving to the UK would cause security concerns and unrest among certain sections of the community and would also be a security threat to British embassies abroad which might be targeted by Islamist terrorists.”  Germany has done the same. Other countries like the U.S., Canada, and Australia are (deliberately?) dragging their feet while she is in hiding with people actively searching to kill her.
Meanwhile, Italy’s Foreign Minister Matteo Salvini, said that he’d do “everything humanly possible” to bring Bibi to Italy and grant her asylum. He said Italy is also working “discreetly” with other Western governments to make that possible. Back in Feb, before she was acquitted, the pope met with her husband and daughter and said, he “thinks a lot about your mother and prays for her,” defining Bibi as a “wonderful martyr woman.”

Correct me if I’m wrong, but now that she's been acquitted, I don’t believe he has become involved with this ‘wonderful catholic martyr woman’s’ need for asylum. After making that comment, I suppose it would be much simpler for him if she truly becomes a martyr. Then again, maybe he’s just too busy playing in his giant sand box.

Mike

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I read that she was let out of jail on condition she would not leave Pakistan.

indianabob:
Interesting comments all.

I have to wonder?

When I was growing up my friends and family included members of several religions.
Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, & none of the above.
Now I am sincerely wondering why any of the members of these and other religions are so afraid when one of their family takes an interest in some other religion. Is their "god" so weak that their "god" cannot allow anyone to disagree for fear that their "god" will lose members.

Seems to me a real GOD would be able to motivate belief in anyone...they chose.

Is their "faith" so weak and fearful that they will go so far as to kill a friend who disagrees?

That is "sick"... >:(

ZekeSr:

--- Quote from: Dennis Vogel on November 30, 2018, 12:06:02 PM ---
--- Quote from: ZekeSr on November 30, 2018, 09:16:05 AM ---
--- Quote from: Musterseed on November 29, 2018, 10:16:12 PM ---I just read an article that for the nativity scene this year, the vatican is shipping in
700 tons of sand and international artists from all over the world to sculpt it .😂😂😂



--- End quote ---

There is a Pakistani woman in Pakistan named Asia Bibi. She is, strangely enough, Catholic. In 2010, she was sentenced to death and fined $1,100 for the major crime of blasphemy, because she was allegedly critical of Mohammed. She appealed her case in 2018 while spending eight years in prison. The Supreme Court bravely overturned the decision for a gross lack of evidence with indications that her accusers lied. There have been major protests in Pakistan over the Supreme Court decision, as the people want her hung.

Asia has requested asylum in the U.K., but has been turned down because: “the UK government had concerns that her moving to the UK would cause security concerns and unrest among certain sections of the community and would also be a security threat to British embassies abroad which might be targeted by Islamist terrorists.”  Germany has done the same. Other countries like the U.S., Canada, and Australia are (deliberately?) dragging their feet while she is in hiding with people actively searching to kill her.
Meanwhile, Italy’s Foreign Minister Matteo Salvini, said that he’d do “everything humanly possible” to bring Bibi to Italy and grant her asylum. He said Italy is also working “discreetly” with other Western governments to make that possible. Back in Feb, before she was acquitted, the pope met with her husband and daughter and said, he “thinks a lot about your mother and prays for her,” defining Bibi as a “wonderful martyr woman.”

Correct me if I’m wrong, but now that she's been acquitted, I don’t believe he has become involved with this ‘wonderful catholic martyr woman’s’ need for asylum. After making that comment, I suppose it would be much simpler for him if she truly becomes a martyr. Then again, maybe he’s just too busy playing in his giant sand box.

Mike

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I read that she was let out of jail on condition she would not leave Pakistan.

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Yes, it's true she was let out of jail on the condition that she wouldn't leave. But that was a deal to try to placate the hardliners who were instigating riots that have caused over a billion dollars in damage. The deal included the release of all the protesters who were arrested, starting a legal process to ban Bibi from leaving the country, and allowing a petition to be filed that would force the Pakistani supreme court to "review" their decision. In other words the government is caving in. Meanwhile, her lawyer has fled to the Netherlands. Some believe she may be hiding in the Dutch Foreign Embassy. One thing is certain; had she remained in jail, she would be dead. And if she is forced to remain in Pakistan, she will eventually be found and killed.

Mike

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