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Heidi:
If any of us, true believers of Christ whom have been shown the mysteries of His Kingdom were to go to any mainstream church today and preach from the pulpit what we believe, all of us will be persecuted. No ifs ands or buts. We all know this in our hearts. Is this not persecution?
Heidi
indianabob:
--- Quote from: Heidi on October 02, 2019, 07:40:51 PM ---If any of us, true believers of Christ whom have been shown the mysteries of His Kingdom were to go to any mainstream church today and preach from the pulpit what we believe, all of us will be persecuted. No ifs ands or buts. We all know this in our hearts. Is this not persecution?
Heidi
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Hello Heidi,
Not sure this will help or if it is fair to state, but supposing that I agree with your statement above, why do you think we should preach what we have learned in someone else's congregation. Isn't that "inviting" persecution? Does God require us to try to save other people when we know we are not welcome? Or is it better to live simply as an example of God's love for all persons and only be ready to give an answer for the faith that lie within us when asked in true sincerity. Surely as mature adults in the faith we can moderate our comments and simply change the subject to one more acceptable to the hearers. When God desires a person to seek truth won't it be obvious to those of us who are knowledgeable?
Mark 6:11
And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
Joh 6:65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1Co 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
1Co 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
Matthew 10:14
And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
Kindly offered, Indiana Bob
Doug:
Ray stated that persecution can only come from others. Would that include Satan?
In my life only a few times have someone mocked me for my believes. It was only words and they only have the power to hurt if you allow it. I think Ray considered people attaching him for his faith as persecution. Somehow I see it as having to be much harsher.
Doug
Heidi:
Hi Indiana Bob,
I totally agree with you. My comment was not to be taken literary, I am sorry if it was interpreted as that.
I started the conversation with "If" and only wanted to show that if God so inspired us to do that the outcome woul be persecution. I have no intention or desire to do so. I came out of Babylon in 2008 by the grace of God and have no desire to go back.
I give account of my faith when asked and know that no one can come to God unless He drags us to Him.
I totally agree with you on "When God desires a person to seek truth won't it be obvious to those of us who are knowledgeable?"
Thank you for the time you took in replying to my post and giving me the opportunity to explain as I don't want any misconceptions to be made.
Heidi
Heidi:
--- Quote from: Doug on October 03, 2019, 12:57:21 PM ---Somehow I see it as having to be much harsher.
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I do too, isn't there a saying that sticks and stones may break your bones but words will never leave you.
Rom 5:2-4 "2. through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we stand; and we rejoice in the hope of the glory of God. 3. Not only that, but we also rejoice in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; 4. perseverance, character; and character, hope.…"
Heidi
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