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Musterseed:
Hello family
I am doing a study on Speaking in tongues and came across this statement by Ray.

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Remember that it is usage that determines the real meaning of words.Dictionaries and the study
of etymology can be big helps , but in the end ,it is the usage that gives us the best definition.
And the more and different ways that we can see a word used, the more precisely we can see it’s
true meaning.
 Thank you everyone for your definitions. I went through them all , but I noticed one in particular
from Heidi’s post that caught my eye. Quote” from the OX Dictionary.” The VICTIMS of religious
persecution. I did a search on the word victim from Vocabulary.com and this is the result.

Pain, physically and mentally, to feel pain, to suffer, to endure, affliction, etc. We know all the
meaning of this words.
The meanings in scriptures can go on and on and on, ie., downfall ,loss of power prosperity
or status, casting down, dismay.

Job said to his friends.
“For now ye are nothing, ye see my casting down and are afraid.”
 
Christ was persecuted but He was not a victim. He did the Fathers will as commishened.
As will God’s called and chosen.

We suffer for Christ, and rejoice in the honour to suffer in His name. We do this with love,
loyalty, devotion and the faith of Christ, we obey all commands in Spirit and Truth.

So many scriptures come to mind
Matt.5:48– Therefore you shall be perfect.
2Sam.22:33– God is my strength and power and He makes my way perfect.

Long- suffering comes to mind .God would not put us through anything He did not go through
Himself. Thank you Lord.  You are perfect.

In Christ
Pamela 💕

Wanda:

--- Quote ---Wanda, you may well be right that that is a better translation of that verse.  I say so because Jesus is preaching/teaching his disciples.  I noticed a few months ago that what we know as "the beatitudes" are split between "blessed are THEY" and "blessed are YOU
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This is what I see too Dave, but think that could have clouded my judgment, and I got careless. Further into this study I don't think the alternate translation fits the point Jesus was making with "They and You", if we read both verse 10 and 11,  and take the narritive of Matt.5  into consideration

10 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
    for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

11 “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.

Also, I checked all translations with the exception of JMNT which  is why I started to question myself and what Jesus was really  saying. First in verse 10 Jesus is saying "They" will be persecuted, and continues that point with "You" will be persecuted in verse 11.

Matt. 5: JMNT

 10  "Those being ones having been pressed forward, chased or persecuted for the sake of fairness, equity,[covenant] relationships or justice which comes from the Way pointed out[are] happy and blessed because the reign of the heavens continually belongs to them (or: for the kingdom of the heavens is continuing to pertain to them; because the reign and sovereign activities from the atmosphere and sky is being a source in and for them.

Compare  the above translation with verse ten, with the alternate translation.

10 Blessed are those who press on to reach the goal because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Although this didn't influence me, the above translation is similar to what Paul says in Philippians 3: and is  clearly not what Jesus was teaching in verse 10.

14 I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus.


--- Quote ---But I think we should let each scripture say what it says and not always conflate the meanings.
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Good advice.     


 

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